Can you id this oil filter, plus 22G190 casing

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Can you id this oil filter, plus 22G190 casing

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This is on a 69 Cooper S. Been fiddled about with during its life.

I'm used to the old paper filters.

Can anyone tell me what this is?

A Unipart filter but any clue on part numbers so I can get replacements.

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Also the gearbox casing is not original. Owner said it wasn't but this is presumably a rarer 970/1071 casing?

Does this mean it's a 3 synchro box?
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Yep, 3 synchro and VERY desirable for the 1071 owners. 8-)

As for the filter , I'd say this will be correct

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Cheers Andrew.

Off to Minispares tomorrow to collect a load of parts. (Mustn't forget my mask)
I'll add a couple of filters to the list.

Thought the gearbox might be desirable to small number of people.

To be honest there's no point in the owner having this box on a '69 1275.
Better off with an original box.

Wasn't planning to take the engine out.

I guess these don't come up very often but what's the price difference between a 22G190 and 22G118?

Edited: I meant 22G1128
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Certainly a 69 S should have the 4 synchro 1128 box.

I’m probably not the best person to advise about the price difference but suffice to say it is quite a bit. A perfect 22G190 casing (Ie no gears) could easily make £800 + !

Has the gearbox got the Hardy Spicer diff or the rubber couplings that a 190 would most likely have ?
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Not something I've looked at closely but I think they are rubber. Just looked through my photos and can't confirm.
I'll take some pictures tomorrow.
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That would be correct for a 190 box but you'd need a Hardy Spicer set up to be correct for the car.

£££ wise, it's better to be this way round than have a 1071 with a 4 sync box and needing a 190 ;)
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Andrew1967 wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:38 am That would be correct for a 190 box but you'd need a Hardy Spicer set up to be correct for the car.

£££ wise, it's better to be this way round than have a 1071 with a 4 sync box and needing a 190 ;)
Totally agree. It's the wrong box for this car. Needs an original 1128 and could make a 970/1071 owner very happy.

A good wrong box to have though and if/when we have the engine out we can put it right.
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Andrew1967 wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:38 am That would be correct for a 190 box but you'd need a Hardy Spicer set up to be correct for the car.

£££ wise, it's better to be this way round than have a 1071 with a 4 sync box and needing a 190 ;)
Totally agree. It's the wrong box for this car. Needs an original 1128 and could make a 970/1071 owner very happy.

A good wrong box to have though and if/when we have the engine out we can put it right.
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Turns out the gearbox is sitting under an AEG151 block.

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Now there has got to be a story behind this car!!!!
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AndyPen wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:13 pm Now there has got to be a story behind this car!!!!
Just asking. So what would a 151 block normally be found on ? Sounds interesting.
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Andrew1967 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:51 pm Certainly a 69 S should have the 4 synchro 1128 box.

I’m probably not the best person to advise about the price difference but suffice to say it is quite a bit. A perfect 22G190 casing (Ie no gears) could easily make £800 + !

Has the gearbox got the Hardy Spicer diff or the rubber couplings that a 190 would most likely have ?
Rubber couplings.

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Also a 12G940 head which is not a surprise compared to the block and gearbox.

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That is something a 1071 owner with the wrong engine would love to have... but I am guessing 1071 not 970?

What a discovery!!!
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There's no ally plate to indicate engine size. Owner assumed he had a 1275!

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I guess I could roughly measure the stroke through spark plug hole.
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Another anomaly. What's going on here?

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I for one have nooooo idea!!!
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Hydro cars were often retro fitted with front shockers to stiffen up the ride. To do this, someone would have to add the front shocker mounts.

That S engine is a great find!
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