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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110587164452? ... 1423.l2649

this stuff isnt very good

much better stuff is available from "moss"

dont waste your money :|
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whats wrong with this then :?: very same supplier :?: :?:
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the problem with this is that there is no way that the people on the production line would ever have done it so neatly :D
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mini129 wrote:the problem with this is that there is no way that the people on the production line would ever have done it so neatly :D
thanks, you obviously,are into detail :D
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what paint and prep did you use for your engine captain? it looks amazing!
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captain wrote:whats wrong with this then :?: very same supplier :?: :?:

that looks great!
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That engine ought to be in an art gallery, fabulous.
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Looking good - very good 8-)
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As above, it's a work of art!
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captain wrote:whats wrong with this then :?: very same supplier :?: :?:
yes it looks ok,very smart hope its ok when the engine gets hot.

same stuff not come outa my cans,ill tell you that !!!

not that i cant paint either,,,im time served in the automotive paint industry.

my paint was a duff mix ,,but what annoyed me was the bull##it that they tried fobbing me off with!!!!!!

i told em straight up, what was wrong with it,and about the breakdown of the reduced yellow oxide 3 resin in the cheap polyeurathane base binder. (this stuff has same pigments as dulux house paint)
i have the upper hand with these geezers as i was trained at ici ,du pont,inmont (now r-m) and ppg paints...

once they knew i knew my onions,they wouldnt communicate any further or offer refund or replacement.

i dont expect miracles
just want a usable product without the bull and excuses.

what they dont account for is the labour incurred in stripping the gooey mess off!!!

if its faulty (and it was-all 3 cans of it) a replacement or refund would have been sufficient...

not been insulted by an amateur paint mixer who dont even know what synthetic binder he used in the mix-

MOSS classic colours aersols are excellent,and used them on many concours winning cars.

you try summat else and what do you get....??

;)

ill stick to what i know is CONSISTANT quality in future.

SORRY TO BE NEGATIVE BUT YOU WERE LUCKY-OTHERS MAY BE NOT SO LUCKY
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The cans from Moss are also not always working well. Quite a bit of difference in colour between different batches of cans (if you look closely, you will notice this on the pictures below - I paint each part separately) and most of the time you can only get about 85% of the stuff out... Anyway, this is the result you can achieve with them. It stays on fairly well but not when engine has run very hot.

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Those are great cars.
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Superb work in the engine bays!
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Very nice work & detailed engines / cars 8-)
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nice to see other peoples views on the paints

problem with the "fascinating finishes " stuff is the paints inability to withstand heat

the resins used in its construction are low flash point and quite flammable
:?
i shall go back to using 2 pack to paint my blocks and heads- much harder wearing and can be cleaned with solvents without worry.

looks like ive been lucky with moss,unlucky with fascinating paint

win some -lose some i suppose
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captain wrote:whats wrong with this then :?: very same supplier :?: :?:
well an update
"fascinating finishes" gave me a fascinating time
well,not quite but has given me hours of non-joyous entertainment

on start up ,after ten min the paint on the rocker cover went soft..
then as it cooled it started to crozzle
on re-start up,it flowed out again
then recrozzled.
blah blah blah

eventually turned into a soggy mess on the engine!!

contacted them,read them the riot act and we were refunded immidiately,,
which is a refreshing change

whether thier paint is always like this ,or they canned me up ( 3 tins) the wrong paint is anybodys guess

if you have some,,have a sniff-if it smells like house paint,u have same batch as mine.
cheap polyeurathane
never thru-cures,,not heat resistant or solvent resistant as they describe it,
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i just hope my bad experience saves other people the stress ive been through.
cheers
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Just a thought for those of you who want to use 2K to paint your engine and are unsure what colour to go for i have always used a Leyland colour called Tundra from about 1974 it is a pretty good match to the darker engine green (see street rat seven strand) ;)
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COOPERMAN wrote:Just a thought for those of you who want to use 2K to paint your engine and are unsure what colour to go for i have always used a Leyland colour called Tundra from about 1974 it is a pretty good match to the darker engine green (see street rat seven strand) ;)
i agree cooperman-

tundra....ive used this on the later engines,and the "BRITISH STANDARD- MID BRONZE GREEN" is good for early 60s lumps,which were substantially lighter.
ive found many 59 and 60 lumps in a much lighter colour than mid bronze green also.
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I had a copy of a BMC or BL internal memo which refered to engine paint as "Olive Green BS220" if that is any help to anyone.
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