Obvious differences between a 1960 reg car and later mk1's

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Obvious differences between a 1960 reg car and later mk1's

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Can anyone tell me what i should be looking for in a car registered in 1960 to verify its the original shell? For instance between this and a 1965 shell or are they the same? Non cooper just 850
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I am not an expert, in these early cars :oops: but if its an early 1960, it has the same welded seat mounts, as a 59 Mini

= like this http://www.google.com/imgres?q=1959+min ... x=67&ty=44
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Thats a very helpful site, cheers Steve
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there are 4 types of shell design on a 1960 depending when built.

but upto march 60 much the same as a post oct 59
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Steve A wrote:Can anyone tell me what i should be looking for in a car registered in 1960 to verify its the original shell? For instance between this and a 1965 shell or are they the same? Non cooper just 850
differences you might find between those years including the seat mountings mentioned, the earlier cars had the wrap around floors so no vented outer sills, if the floors are wrap around they will also have a wider front pressing where your heel goes with the outer rib going straight into the depression instead of angling like the later ones, flat front and rear window frames later ones are indented just outside the seal, rear valence closers are open on the early ones as in they don't close off the ends of the valence, the front crossmember in the engine bay is a much crisper box shape, single skin a panels
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single skin a panels vanished in 60 and a godsend cos they were rubbish.

i have a couple of cars afflicted with these, can see the panel flexing as u open the door!!! :mrgreen:
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single skin a panels vanished very early 60
Was still there Mid 60. My June built 60 still has it's original single skin A panel.
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I also have a mid 60 with single skin 'A' panel
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I have no idea exactly what month my shell is, my original was a januaryish car, morris build number 14577. As the shell was this side of destroyed I replicated the differences between it and this one in this shell. Mostly the differences I found were in the captive nuts, this one had them caged 4 point nuts, my original was brazed on 6 point nuts.

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bill773mini wrote:
single skin a panels vanished very early 60
My June built 60 still has it's original single skin A panel.
yes my cherry red 60 deluxe nearly same chassis no as yours bill is single skinned,,,,

my mistake!!-i was wrong!!

i just checked

:mrgreen:

i have however an aug 60 which is orig and double skinned... when was the changover supposed to be anyway??
i dont think the change point was very clear cut
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something i have noticed
on early seat bracketted cars some have a hole in seat box section near inner sill ,,some do not
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