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T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:34 pm
by John Bull
If there is already a thread on this subject please guide me to it.
If not, does anyone have any info, working experience with it?
I had TJ mechanical injection on my spaceframe car over 30 years ago. It worked superbly. I am now fitting it to a restored Group 5 car for historic racing, but can remember little about original settings.
Any help would be appreciated.
Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 7:48 pm
by minimans
We had TJ injection on our 8 port about 30 years ago too, all I remember was that it was a pain in the Arse! and we went to 4 Amals then webbers Sorry not much help.............
Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:14 pm
by trevorhp
Hi
I also have 2 Gp5 cars with TJ injection
What do you need to know ?
I have some information and will be happy to point you in the direction of those who know TJ better than me
I may lso have some spare parts for sale.
Trevor

Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:32 pm
by John Bull
Just sent you a PM Trev. Thanks.
Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 1:44 pm
by mk1
Also quite a bit of ionfo here, on the main MK1 site;
http://mk1-performance-conversions.co.u ... l_carb.htm
Scroll down the page.
Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 5:08 pm
by John Bull
Thanks Mk1. All useful and interesting stuff.
Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 5:10 pm
by Pete
trevorhp wrote:Hi
I also have 2 Gp5 cars with TJ injection
Trevor I sent your recent email re throttle bodies to Jeff Goodliff to see if he knows more.

Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 5:50 pm
by John Bull
Pic of my injection setup - if it will open

Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 7:56 pm
by graham.codling
That's what you need Trevor .very nice set up .
Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 9:10 pm
by App K
Trevor I dont recognise the throttle bodies, and is that quite a large diameter toothed pulley on the engine driven fuel pump?
What size belt pulley are you using on the crank output (ratio wise to fuel pump)?
Looks good though.!
Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 9:24 pm
by Pete
Trev needs this lot....

Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 9:49 pm
by trevorhp
Hi Graham
Very nice indeed, but sadly not quite right for me according to the pictures I have of my cars.
I think the correct ones may still be the ones you have but on a different manifold keeping them under the std bonnet.
Need better pictures to confirm this though.....anyone out there with better under bonnet close-ups of KDK 320F in 1968-1969?

Trevor
Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 9:57 pm
by trevorhp
Hi App K
The pulleys appear to be a variety of sizes I have pumps with 40, 41 and 42 teeth.
The ratio needs to be such that the distribution pump runs at no more than 6000rpm so the size is (almost) irrelevent.
I have several references from TJ letters/manuals/leaflets to this effect
Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 10:01 pm
by graham.codling
Trevor we could chop them and re weld them

Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 10:19 pm
by trevorhp
Hi Graham
That's what Vita did I am sure, as the ones on their other cars look like the same as your throttle bodies but they do protrude through the bonnets.
The ones they offered for sale in 1969 (see Mk 1 main website brochures) would need a mod to the bonnet, minor they say, but a hole would be required.
trevor
Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:42 am
by mk1
VERY NICE INDEED!
Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 10:58 am
by John Bull
App K wrote:Trevor I dont recognise the throttle bodies, and is that quite a large diameter toothed pulley on the engine driven fuel pump?
What size belt pulley are you using on the crank output (ratio wise to fuel pump)?
Looks good though.!
The throttle bodies were made recently by a friend in Agira, a little mountain village in Sicily. He's a competent engineer, specialising mainly in producing gears for boxes and diffs. We raced regularly together over 40 years ago, and have stayed in touch. He still has the old Group 5 FIAT X19 he raced then, in his garage
I am now using different pulleys - 40 t on the pump to 30 t on the crank, which relates to 6000 at the pump to 8000rpm on the crank.
Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:14 am
by John Bull
Incidentally, the whole lot does fit comfortably under the standard Mini bonnet.

Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:57 am
by mk1
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Re: T J Fuel Injection
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 12:18 pm
by John Bull
Thanks Mk1. Here's another try as per your instructions.