Estate/traveller rear window frame

[Daddy diff]

I am currently busy with a 64 Morris mini estate I have removed the rear window frames to replace the sliding chanels, the frame was fitted with an adhesive, but I see that there are 4mil studs fixed to the frame can any one tell me how this works, do you remove the clips from the frame and fit the clips to the body or do you fit the frame and strugle to fit the retaining nuts on the inside of the body.

[62Countryman]

I am not exactly sure what you mean in your post "removed the rear window frames". Here is how I replaced the rear window channels:
1. There are 25 nuts that you have to remove from the inside and under the body. In addition, there are a sh*t load of screws that need to be removed as well as the rear lights. By doing this you can remove the ash trim. Be careful, the rear sliding windows are held in place by the wood trim.
2. The vertical as well as the upper window channels are held in by screws and caulking. You do not need to remove the upper and vertical channels to remove the glass. The glass will pull away from the body by tilting the glass and moving the lower window channel away from the body. Don't drop the glass!!!

Mini Spares sells repro channels that are really close to the original (Rigid) channels. You will need to drill drain holes for the lower channel. I wouldn't use the flexible rubber channels..use the rigid channels. I used the flexible channels on my estate but I will remove them once the weather gets warmer. The rear windows do not slide that well and it is difficult to lock the windows. The problems are related to the flexible channels.

The 25 nuts are used to secure the mounting disks/ash frame (Disk side to wood, followed by a very thin rubber washer to cover the disk) to the body. 3 small wood screws are used to secure this round disks to the ash frame. Most of the 25 nuts are easy to remove except for the side where you fill the tank. You can always remove the gas tank to make removing the nuts easier! The disks are sold by Mini Spares but they are rubbish (sorry for dishing a UK Mini Bits vendor)..... Very poor quality. I just has some disks custom made by a friend of mine. He welded a stainless steel washer and screw together to create the disk. I'll try posting a picture later.

In addition to the instructions above, you will need to caulk the inside of the ash frame before you secure it to the body. I think Mark (or someone on this forum) mentioned that he used some type of mastic putty for the caulking. Some people use DUMDUM and some use silicone caulking (like I did). I would stay away from the silicone caulking if possible for I heard it contains salt???? Too late in my case but I plan on installing rigid channels anyway. I hope it isn't too difficult to remove my ash frame. I hope my post helps you.

[Daddy diff]

Thanks 62 countryman Iam using ridgid channels from mini spares UK the frame I am talking about is the external surround on thr outside of the body it retians the channels in the window apiture. The proble I have is a previous ( restorer?) glue the steel frame back and I would like to return to original.

[62Countryman]

You must have a tinny as the yanks call them (no ash trim). Sorry I can't help with you ?.

[mk1]

The steel trim round the windows in non wood travellers is indeed held on by lots of little bolts. You do need to remove these to remove the outer trim & its a sod of a job doing this & replacing them.

M