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Sliding window frame question...
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 9:02 am
by Sixty2B
Does the window frame sit on some kind of mastic on the door top?
Any advice gratefully received
Re: Sliding window frame question...
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 9:27 am
by Peter Laidler
It sits in 3 or 4 1" wide (?) 'bridges' that extend between the inner and outer parts, below the window channel. You could use a bit of sealing mastic if you wanted to. But it won't do much.
Re: Sliding window frame question...
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:35 am
by Polarsilver
i also run a light bead of Mastic to squash between the vertical edge of the lower furry slider channel & the inner vertical of the door frame area as with "repro" slider channels fitted .. i have had rain / wash water run down behind the slider channels in that small but became an issue gap area .
Re: Sliding window frame question...
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:49 pm
by Sixty2B
Thank you.
Do you have a part number, a retailer or a picture of these bridges please.
Re: Sliding window frame question...
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:57 pm
by mab01uk
Sixty2B wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:49 pm
Thank you.
Do you have a part number, a retailer or a picture of these bridges please.
I think the 'bridges' Peter mentioned are actually part of the door bridging the 'water gutter' below as seen in photo above, which the window slider channel sits on. Those I have removed usually have some kind of mastic below the window slider channel where it sits on the 'bridges' and metalwork below.
Re: Sliding window frame question...
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:15 pm
by 1071 S
Be very careful to use a true mastic…. NOT something adhesive like silicone.
If the sealant is adhesive you’ll never get to replace the runners again …EVER..
Cheers, Ian
Re: Sliding window frame question...
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:21 pm
by Sixty2B
Thanks for the info.
I've searched everywhere for that seal cannot find them.
Any suggestions?
Re: Sliding window frame question...
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 6:52 pm
by floormanager
I do not really understand how you're supposed to seal the chrome part to the door. I had rain water dribbling out between the two. I had to run some CT1 along the edge on the inside.
Re: Sliding window frame question...
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:41 pm
by mascher
The sealing mastic I've seen in this spot is very similar to plumber's putty.
Kelley
Re: Sliding window frame question...
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:29 pm
by Polarsilver
I use the panel mastic from 3M = 08568 none-hardening will not shrink .. comes in 6mm strips ( i have rolled it to become thinner for the window tracks) .. now looking at my box of this stuff it has an expiry date of 2021 .. not an issue with my remaining new unused mastic it is still good to be used... good stuff & even used some on my J40 pedal car.
Re: Sliding window frame question...
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:07 pm
by Exminiman
1071 S wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:15 pm
Be very careful to use a true mastic…. NOT something adhesive like silicone.
If the sealant is adhesive you’ll never get to replace the runners again …EVER..
Cheers, Ian
Another reason never to use silicon sealant, is it will cause rust due to its acid etch
Re: Sliding window frame question...
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 6:21 pm
by floormanager
Polarsilver wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:29 pm
I use the panel mastic from 3M = 08568 none-hardening will not shrink .. comes in 6mm strips ( i have rolled it to become thinner for the window tracks) .. now looking at my box of this stuff it has an expiry date of 2021 .. not an issue with my remaining new unused mastic it is still good to be used... good stuff & even used some on my J40 pedal car.
Thanks for the tip. I'll get some.
Re: Sliding window frame question...
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:33 pm
by Sixty2B
Good information for the mastic, but I need the rubber seal shown in the photo.
Where can I get these from please
Re: Sliding window frame question...
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:52 pm
by floormanager
Sixty2B wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:33 pm
Good information for the mastic, but I need the rubber seal shown in the photo.
Where can I get these from please
There's no rubber seal. The channel sits on the top of the door,on the bridges. I looked up the mini restoration book mentioned earlier, it does have some very good Haynes type photos.
https://www.somerfordmini.co.uk/haynes- ... ion-manual
They cover the entire area with mastic, Propoer mastic. They also put it on the underneath of the channel to prevent leaks.
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Re: Sliding window frame question...
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:39 pm
by Sixty2B
Thanks Floormanager!