austin 1100 remote gear linkage vs mini linkage??

[pdaykin]

I've currently have that set up on my Cooper

There are a few differences as you say - but had no issues when fitting it.

[Vegard]

I've seen this fitted to a Mini, the only snag is the there is even less room for the exhaust.

[Giff]

You could get hold of a Mini remote diff cover and convert the box easily enough.

[Vegard]

You could get hold of a Mini remote diff cover and convert the box easily enough.

So you find taking it to a machine shop, (provided you don't have the facilities yourself) having the hole measured and in 80% of the cases (no pun intended) having the whole casing linebored easily enough?
Damn, nothing's hard for you is it?

[YMJ]

You could get hold of a Mini remote diff cover and convert the box easily enough.

So you find taking it to a machine shop, (provided you don't have the facilities yourself) having the hole measured and in 80% of the cases (no pun intended) having the whole casing linebored easily enough?
Damn, nothing's hard for you is it?

You don't have to get it linebored - just take out the dowel pins and take twice the time torqueing the diff cover and the output shaft covers down.....'never had a problem in the two times I've had to do it. This is one of the great urban Mini myths!

[mk1]

This is one of the great urban Mini myths!

I don't agree.

Doing it the way described above CAN make it more likely to succeed, but as the hole is to all intents & purposes floating, it can just as likely not work.

I have seen gearboxes where the backs have been swapped that don't leak & I have seen ones that leak like taps.

You pays your money & takes your chance.

[Vegard]

I just had several of these patients at a machine shop to have measured. I even found that some of the original 70ies ones with the correct housing couldn't have gaskets as the late 90ies ones, because the hole was too "big".

Measure it if it's OK, then it's OK. I'd never just change the housing and crossing my fingers. That is plain old bodging.

[36inter]

Whats the matter with a good old bodge, got me out of many a fix

[guru_1071]

You don't have to get it linebored - just take out the dowel pins and take twice the time torqueing the diff cover and the output shaft covers down.....'never had a problem in the two times I've had to do it. This is one of the great urban Mini myths!

im sorry, but this is utter crap, the cases where line bored for a reason, sure you may be 'lucky' and find one that feels as if it fits in the up & down plane (so there is no lip where the bearing goes, but there is no chance that is will measure the same east & west, and this is before the side plates are fitted.

the factory machined the cases for a reason.

ive seen gearboxs that have had the backs swopped ('because you can do it') that when torqued down, nip the bearings and lock the diff up.

its just not a good practice, and anyone who beleives it is should really buy a mercer bore guage and use it a few times, they may be surprised!!!

[paul1275s]

Whats the matter with a good old bodge, got me out of many a fix

More of a 'Botch' than a 'Bodge'..

[guru_1071]

whines like a dog..

the other problem is that when cases are re machined it can remove metal which allows the diff to move intowards the pinion, which removes the backlash from the cwp. this then causes problems with the pinion 'attacking' the crownwheel and wearing it.

ive seen a gold seal box that had so much chopped away that some cwp would simply lock up when it was assembled

[Giff]

Bloody hell, have a guess what I just fitted to the rear of a 846..

[YMJ]

You don't have to get it linebored - just take out the dowel pins and take twice the time torqueing the diff cover and the output shaft covers down.....'never had a problem in the two times I've had to do it. This is one of the great urban Mini myths!

im sorry, but this is utter crap, the cases where line bored for a reason, sure you may be 'lucky' and find one that feels as if it fits in the up & down plane (so there is no lip where the bearing goes, but there is no chance that is will measure the same east & west, and this is before the side plates are fitted.

the factory machined the cases for a reason.

ive seen gearboxs that have had the backs swopped ('because you can do it') that when torqued down, nip the bearings and lock the diff up.

its just not a good practice, and anyone who beleives it is should really buy a mercer bore guage and use it a few times, they may be surprised!!!

Well it worked for me......twice.....on racing units!

[guru_1071]

Well it worked for me......twice.....on racing units!

i guess you couldnt hearing it complaining over all the sc noise!

[YMJ]

Well it worked for me......twice.....on racing units!

i guess you couldnt hearing it complaining over all the sc noise!

probably true but it still gave a reasonable output . btw, this was both using rod change boxes

[vulcanbb18]

This is rather topical...

I'm doing a gearbox swap in my 1100 to get it back on the road - thing is the gearbox I have "at hand" ready to go is a mini 4-sync remote box.

I'd prefer to not do the diff casing bodge, and use a mini remote in the 1100 instead. Especially as I've renewed all the bushes in the casing for the remote change, etc.

Anyone done this before? Will the mini remote extension bolt up to the 1100 rear mount ok? One person I asked said it worked no problems, another I asked said he thought the rear mounts were different and it wouldn't work.

Opinions?

cheers,

Jacob

[nick@dunsdale]

take it thats why my 60 mini whines like a dog..
swapped the rear housing remote for a wand change housing

it was many years ago,,and i didnt know better

From my experience the old gearbox whine was usually down to a problem on the transfer gears and not the diff

[Simon776]

has anybody fitted this set up to a mini??

The Spanish built Mini 1275C had this as standard from the factory.

[618AOG]

The diff housing is line bored with the gearbox casing, and it needs to be right. You could try a number of Mini diff housings to find one that was 'close enough'.

Back in the day, dropping 1100/1300 engines and gearboxes into old Minis and using the 1100 remote was never an issue. I would however be welding bridge pieces on both sides of the sandwich plate - if the rubber between the two bits fails and the remote drops down in the road........well, I'll leave that to your imagination.

[mab01uk]

So.........why did BMC/BL go to this extra trouble and costs of designing two subtlety different gear change remotes doing the exactly the same job on mechanically very similar cars?
If it was for extra refinement on the BMC 1100 range why not improve the Mini at the same time and reduce the production costs with common parts? Many Mini owners of the time also suffered with a 'buzzing' gearlever but I don't ever remember this on the 1100 rubber sandwich remote, so it may also have cured that before the rod change arrived!