Autosparks Mk1 S wiring harness

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Autosparks Mk1 S wiring harness

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Just gone to fit my Autosparks (via MiniSpares) wiring harness and I’m a bit concerned with the positioning of the solenoid wires :?

On 9748KO I have a NOS Mk1 harness and the solenoid wires come out near the flasher unit ..

Here’s a pic showing the layout of the harness and the solenoid wires ... in the centre pointing into the engine bay
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That looks about the same as the replacement loom on my '67 S, which fitted to the car no problem. With the solenoid on the transfer housing, and the S brake booster and fresh air hoses in the way, there really isn't a lot of room in that area.

By the time you've hooked up the headlights to the 4-way bullet connectors and pushed it all up under the slam panel, it'll be positioned just about right to drop the cables to the solenoid down from above - near the body number tag next to the horn.

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Odd, looks like the whole thing is too long by a foot or more......

Looks more like something out of an ADO16
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Hi Ian,

I’ll post up a pic but with it all pushed up into the slam panel it exits where the bonnet lock is, way too far along.

Everything else in the engine bay ‘appears’ to be correct :?
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yeah, I see what you mean now. That doesn't look right... it's about 4 inches further across from the one on my car.

(not a great photo that I posted, but you can just about make that cable out - it's the blurry thing to the right of the oil cooler hose, next to the distributor and near the bonnet catch)
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I believe the harness should go down farther, pretty much to the front of the subframe, and, then back up to the slam panel....

That would eat up some of the length, but, still looks too long.....
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Yeah, it’s just too far along where it exits the loom.

Anyone else had similar problems ?
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bwaminispeed wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:34 pm I believe the harness should go down farther, pretty much to the front of the subframe, and, then back up to the slam panel....

That would eat up some of the length, but, still looks too long.....
I’ve not seen that before personally. The issue there is that it would make the rest of the wires too short to reach.
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The Cables for the selenoid of my new Autosparks 62 Cooper Harness cane out of the Loom where the Cables for the Flasher Relay and Brake Light came out...
I promise i won't buy another MkI...
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Here's a better view of how I routed it on mine - taken before the oil cooler was refitted.

You can see better what I was trying to describe - that it drops down vertically from the slam panel above, and then splits to go horizontally to the solenoid on one side, and the wires to the dynamo/distributor on the other side.

I'm not saying this is period correct... but it's how I made it all fit correctly on my car.
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Fanfaniracing wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:40 pm The Cables for the selenoid of my new Autosparks 62 Cooper Harness cane out of the Loom where the Cables for the Flasher Relay and Brake Light came out...
That’s how my genuine BMC NOS Mk1 Cooper harness is that I have on 9748KO.
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iain1967s wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:41 pm Here's a better view of how I routed it on mine - taken before the oil cooler was refitted.

You can see better what I was trying to describe - that it drops down vertically from the slam panel above, and then splits to go horizontally to the solenoid on one side, and the wires to the dynamo/distributor on the other side.

I'm not saying this is period correct... but it's how I made it all fit correctly on my car.
I’ll have a look see on that Iain. I’m not convinced that is how it should be though (as you say).
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Looks like I was wrong in that, main front harness does run directly into/under slam panel.......

This pic from my 69 Cooper may not help, as, I believe it is a Flitch panel mounted solenoid.......

The solenoid wires come out of the harness just after going through the Triangle brace panel...

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Had another look and got it similar to yours I think Iain and maybe that’s what Bwaminispeed was meaning.

Measured the solenoid to inner wing gap on 9748 and it looks like the wires will be fine.

Thanks for everyone’s help on this, I panicked over nothing to seems.

One good thing is after checking on HOY’s old loom, which was so butchered it was all inconclusive, I did find the original 2 65 fuse box in useable condition.
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Mk2’s are indeed inner wing/flitch mounted.
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Get in touch with Autosparks, send them your old loom and the one you bought from Minispares, They will remake it using your old one as a template. I did this with mine and it came back perfect
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Did the same thing with the MKIII S currently on BAT.....It was originally an export model, and, quite different than standard UK models....

Worked out really well, everything fit perfectly...
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63 countryman,bad pics but anyway...
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Andrew, on your autosparks loom check all the bullet connectors are crimped ok, I have had a issue with a loom for a Riley elf which 4 of the bullets weren’t even crimped correct! It may be easier to check now than trace a fault later. Autosparks have been contacted about the issue.
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Craig, I will check them, good idea :)

Thanks for the pics Gareth, I presume it is a key start car ?

Looking back, can anyone confirm that how Iain has his fitted, which is how my loom will fit is actually correct ?
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