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Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:11 am
by mk1
There has been much discussion about what is the best 10" road legal tyre for hillclimbing.
Well, after back to back tests Adam & I are still undecided. .....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb4r5AMj0pU
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:40 pm
by JohnA
Wasn't Matt Clarke using Avons last year?
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:42 pm
by 6604KF
What tyres did you have on in the video?
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:47 pm
by mk1
JohnA wrote:Wasn't Matt Clarke using Avons last year?
Yes. But I assume they had been shaved or were well scrubbed.
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:47 pm
by mk1
6604KF wrote:What tyres did you have on in the video?
Avons
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:49 pm
by mk1
By the end of the day I was within about 1/4 a second of my best time but I was fighting the car all day.
It was not a pleasant experience.
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:30 pm
by spoon.450
Avons are VERY expensive in comparison aren't they ?
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:53 pm
by mk1
spoon.450 wrote:Avons are VERY expensive in comparison aren't they ?
They MOST CERTAINLY ARE!
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 2:05 pm
by Pete
Not sure it's hugely relevant but Avon's are also quite abit heavier than Yokys aren't they?
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:08 pm
by timell
That looked like hard work
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Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:30 pm
by rich@minispares.com
to be fair to the Avons I always found that due to the sidewalls they would always take a lap (in circuit racing) before they 'came on', I suspect that unbuffed they will behave like cr65's and need a couple of bends (in hillclimbing) before the heat gets into them
it may be that in hillclimbing a car would need a bit more toe in just to stabilise the back and get the back tyres a little hotter
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 6:54 pm
by wantafaster1
Much discussion about this in the rallying fraternity. Yes the Avon are dear but last many times as long.
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:26 pm
by GraemeC
I’ve been using Avon’s for a couple of years now, partly on Rich’s recommendation. I’ve not experienced anything as extreme as that, but with the heat you put into the front tyres and then cold rears there would be a considerable grip differential.
Dependant on the rally, I won’t always use them on the rear as, once warmed up, They have too much grip for the handbrake to overcome.
The fact you felt you were fighting them all day to me says there’s lots of grip, and hence speed, in them to come.
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:06 am
by JohnA
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:09 am
by rich@minispares.com
7x10 and cut slicks!
for the win!
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:13 am
by Tim Harber
Wrong wrong wrong
Guess who has swopped 9 Avons for a load of work done on someones car so that Mr Clever Dick would have lots of grip at all times
and who has just entered Harewood....
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:56 am
by rich@minispares.com
Tim Harber wrote:Wrong wrong wrong
Guess who has swopped 9 Avons for a load of work done on someones car so that Mr Clever Dick would have lots of grip at all times
and who has just entered Harewood....
excellent news tim!
the opportunities for backwards driving, grasscutting and bank ramming are ready for you
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Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:16 am
by LuisM
I vote for the Avon's , more grip and less understeer on 5" Wheels than the Yoko's on 6" wheels.
i never ran a brand new set, i don't know how they behave when new.
1st set i had were worn and 10 years old, still they performed very well,
The set i'm using now were shaved and did a test session on a race FIA Mk1, now in my car they perform very very well.
As Rich said, they do need to be warmed up... or you will be asking for a spin .
Cheers
Luis
Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:18 am
by billycooper
Asda have got a deal on electric blankets
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Re: Yoko 0032 V Avon CR66ZZ
Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:12 pm
by Tim Harber
rich@minispares.com wrote:Tim Harber wrote:Wrong wrong wrong
Guess who has swopped 9 Avons for a load of work done on someones car so that Mr Clever Dick would have lots of grip at all times
and who has just entered Harewood....
excellent news tim!
the opportunities for backwards driving, grasscutting and bank ramming are ready for you
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
I could bring it to a new level . See after 9 minutes or so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXgG5Cbd3UM
A bit of oil helped . The A40 went off in front but a bit too late to take on board