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Door squares or not

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:28 pm
by mk1rally
I know it won't make it go any faster but I am going to be doing (or planning too at least!) more road rally's.

The car currently has them but is going through a little "freshen up" and being painted.

So do they stay or go?? what's the experience out there on how they are accepted at scruit?

I must admit, I do like the "works" look and that's what's wanting me to keep them but I gather they may not go down too well?

Looking at events in the mag's, a fair few seem to be running them.

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:06 pm
by pad4
There outlawed for road rallies - so are 4 front lamps etc...

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:13 pm
by Pete
Might be worth considering magnetic squares if you do the odd sprint etc ?

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:01 am
by Dino
pad4 wrote:There outlawed for road rallies -...
Just to clarify - that's Road Rallies as defined by the permit. They're acceptable on Navigational permit events, although sometimes frowned on. You should have word with your local club(s).

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:38 am
by cookie1071
Dino wrote:
pad4 wrote:There outlawed for road rallies -...
Just to clarify - that's Road Rallies as defined by the permit. They're acceptable on Navigational permit events, although sometimes frowned on. You should have word with your local club(s).
Lose 'em David, not worth the hassle :roll: , and as Surf 1275 suggests you can always fit magnetic jobbies.
I am biased though! :twisted: :lol:

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:31 pm
by mk1rally
It does look to be the answer. Cheers all.

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:12 pm
by slowboy
just seen this, i have painted squares on the rallycar, for a seasons rallying i cover them with low tac vinyl panels in matt red , scruitineers are more than happy with this, any time the car is elsewhere ie not competing, i remove the vinyl cover ups ,

as it should be :D

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as the msa say it should be

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Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:53 pm
by Yorkie 'S'
And the rationale behind this rule ???

I can't see any sense in it ?

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:04 pm
by GraemeC
To make the cars look less like rally cars, thereby (supposedly) giving a better view of the sport to the public.

However talk to just about any classic rally organiser and most of the public that get PRd would like to see the cars as they were, not some 'disguised' version.

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:38 pm
by bluemin
Where to get vinyl mat though in different colours. How about orange and BMC Blaze. :twisted:

Incidentally I agree that it's a piece of nonsense. Apart from the mandarins in the MSA no one has a good word to say about it. :shock:

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:22 pm
by pad4
MSA have a quota of stupid rules they need to implement every year - this is just one of them..

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:03 pm
by Yorkie 'S'
Ok, I get ya ! Someone twiddling there thumbs at the MSA decided to make themselves useful one day !

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:25 pm
by Toby
Surf 1275 wrote:Might be worth considering magnetic squares if you do the odd sprint etc ?
The magnetic ones will scratch the paint, I wouldn't go near them.

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:06 pm
by LMM76C
masnarda wrote:
Surf 1275 wrote:Might be worth considering magnetic squares if you do the odd sprint etc ?
The magnetic ones will scratch the paint, I wouldn't go near them.
Not only your paint. I've seen them come off, fly up into the air and land on the next car in a (slow) pre-sprint convoy run.

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:51 pm
by Pete
Well Dave you ask a question and you get a dozen different opinions, that'll teach you. :lol: Must say I never scratched my doors (??) and they never flew off in three seasons sprinting, must have been plenty of filler in those doors !

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:21 am
by tomkidd
There are different thicknesses of material, the thinner it is the more likely it is to fly off. If the door is clean and you apply them properly then they shouldn't scratch the paint at all.

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:22 am
by mk1rally
Thanks for all the replies.

Maybe I could utilse a few of the option's:-

1.Get quality ones (found a place that sell it by the sheet. No OEW though, just white)

2. Kinda hoping there is no filler in the doors and that they are all steel, not a combination of fibre matting and kellogs boxes!

3. Apply a good coat of polish before hand.

4.Maybe tape the edges if they seem to flp about.

5. Take them off when not being used and make sure they are clean.

I did ask, didn't I.

Still, if it scratches or flick off and lands on another car/person and cause's damage...perhaps I could send the bill to the MSA for making up a daft rule and stoping THEIR member's making full use of their cars without always incurring additional cost's (Unless your in the click and therefore earn a small fortune, own a venue, sleep with the daughter of one of the MSA directors)!!

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:07 pm
by bluemin
Kinda hoping there is no filler in the doors and that they are all steel, not a combination of fibre matting and kellogs boxes!
.............also a bummer if you have alloy doors. :twisted:

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:51 pm
by minitravellerman
I've been debating whether to go with door squares on my latest project as well.
What do you all think - Sandalwood Beige bodywork - white or black squares?

Re: Door squares or not

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:04 am
by mk1rally
Not 100% certain, but pretty sure that if you are going to use it in events, they have to be white.