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oil seal problem

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:16 pm
by Charlynsane
Hello guys,

I have some trouble with my MK2 cooper,

The clutch oil seal is leaking,

I remove the clutch cover (the engine is the car)

Should i remove the engine to remove the flywheel?

How can i remove the old oil seal?

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:42 pm
by surf-blue-850
Can be done in-situ.

Take care when sliding the seal over the primary gear, it's easy to damage the seal. Try and get the proper tools or wrap the gear with tape to slide the seal over. While you're at it, check the end float of the gear, too much can cause oil to leak.

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:28 pm
by Charlynsane
thank you very much,

What is the best flywheel puller, mine is fitted for 40 years..

maybe kad?

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:40 pm
by surf-blue-850
I've got an old sykes one I think. Belonged to my Dad, never let me down so far.......

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:42 pm
by GraemeC
Guessworks sells a nice heavy duty puller

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:18 am
by Charlynsane
thank you guys,

is the seal difficult to be removed?

I will try to find the the tool to fit it without damage

thanks

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:46 am
by Spider
I'm pretty sure the GW puller doesn't fit in the car. The Hydraulic ones are the go, never fail.
Charlynsane wrote:thank you guys,

is the seal difficult to be removed?

I will try to find the the tool to fit it without damage

thanks
The easiest way is with a Primary Gear Puller, I made mine about 30 years ago, however these guys sell something similar

http://minisport.com.au/mini-primary-ge ... oving-tool

As you pull the Primary Gear, the seal will come with it.

Then when refitting the new seal, these are a handy and easy to use bit of kit

https://www.minispares.com/product/Clas ... 0to%20shop

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:22 pm
by GraemeC
It might not, although it doesn't look much bigger than a SP one which does.
Hydraulic are great - but not easy (or cheap) to come by.

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:19 pm
by Spider
I seem to recall John himself saying they didn't fit in car.

Looks a nice bit of kit though.

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:32 pm
by ianh1968
Spider wrote:The easiest way is with a Primary Gear Puller, I made mine about 30 years ago<SNIP>
Does it look anything like this, also made about (almost exactly) 30 years ago?
PGearPuller.jpg
This was made in a bit of a hurry as a primary gear had seized itself to the crank
of the Marcos engine when it was first built.

TOP TIP:
May sound like a stupid thing to say, but don't forget to remove the 'C'-clip
and retainer ring before use or your efforts will be in vain...
(My brother once tried to remove a flywheel using a puller, but forgot to take
the key-plate out first. He kicked himself when I pointed out his problem.)
:oops:/ :lol:

Ian

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:50 am
by Spider
Ian, very very nice, very nice indeed. Much better than the original BMC tool.

Mine is nothing remotely as nice as that and now I see yours, I'm glad I didn't post a picture of it!

You do realise that I'm gunna have to steal the idea though, don't sweat it, I'll be sure to let my mates know I thought of it :mrgreen:

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:50 pm
by Charlynsane
Hello guys,

I will try to remove the seal my a thin screawdriver, very carefully, the tool is very expensive

I will buy a puller for the flywheel and the tool to put the seal... first time for me..

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:49 pm
by Supersonic
Charlynsane wrote:Hello guys,

I will try to remove the seal my a thin screawdriver, very carefully, the tool is very expensive

I will buy a puller for the flywheel and the tool to put the seal... first time for me..
Try and get your hands on a Sykes-Pickavant 851X clutch & flywheel puller kit if you can. I have this kit man & boy over 40 years :D :D
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Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:08 am
by Oz67Deluxe
No need for a puller! Punch a small hole in the seal then screw in a suitable self tapper screw. Then grab the screw with multigrips etc and yank on it. Viola, seal pops out. Don't mess about with screw drivers, you'll damage something...

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:35 am
by Charlynsane
Hello Guys!

Good idea!!

I will do this during the week end!

cheers

Charles

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:02 pm
by Charlynsane
Hello guys,

I managed to remove the flywheel and the clutch but not the oil seal.


I'm looking for a primary gear puller

thank you

Charles

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:40 am
by Charlynsane
Hello guys,

Still looking for a puller

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13769

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:11 pm
by Spider
If I remember today, I'll post up photos of mine, not nearly as elaborate as Ian's but gets the job done.

I made it probably 30 years ago, long before I had any machines, apart from materials, all you need to make one is a hacksaw (or grinder), a hole saw and a welder.

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:40 pm
by Charlynsane
Hello,

Unfortunately I don't have welder

I'm still searching

Re: oil seal problem

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:34 pm
by Charlynsane
Hello

I found my tool on ebay..

55 pounds including shipping!

Expensive But i need it quickly to finish my father's engine