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1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:10 pm
by Jebo
Hi,

I am Jeroen and live in The Netherlands. Since two years I am the owner of an early 850 mk3 and have just started the Restoration process.

Some background:

I am the second owner of this very original Dutch Mini. The Mini was originally won by its owner by a pigeon competition in 1971 and has stayed with this owner until 1989 when it was put into storage. Within all those years only 41.000 kilometres was put on this car and nothing has been changed.

My plan is to restore it completely like it was in 1971, but with some period upgrades. I already have an original Speedwel rev counter and accelartor pedal, Springalex steering wheel and 5x10 GB alloys from the first series.

Suspension will be the usual adjustarides, adjustable camber/caster and Spax dampers.

For the engine I am still uncertain and I am doubting about a lightly tuned 998 or 1098 in combination with 4 sync magic wand.

For safety reasons I will add seatbelts in the back and ugrade the brakes to disc brakes.

Currently the bodyshell is under Restoration with a local specialist (http://www.7heaven.nl/) and the plan is to build it up again over winter.

If you have any suggestions or questions, please let me know!

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:38 pm
by minidean
Hi Jebo,

Any pictures????

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:28 pm
by UHR850
Hoi Jeroen.

Top ik ben erg benieuwd naar het resultaat ;) ( dutch )


Kees

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:04 pm
by Jebo
Some pictures before we started!
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Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:30 pm
by Jebo
Ready for "Thermal paint stripping":
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Back from the "oven":
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After a mild sandblast and welding primer:
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I'll update with welding progress soon!

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:47 am
by JC T ONE
Hi & welcome :)

Nice car, with nice history 8-) but if it had been mine (which it aint) I would have kept it original.

Early MK III,s in original spec are not easy to find, and rearly turn up at shows anymore :(

Atleast think about it.

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:12 am
by Jebo
Thanks JC T One for your reply!

I'll keep the outside looking original except it will be a bit lower and have alloys (period correct GB's) On the inside I will have some period correct changes, but not too much!

The goal is to have an original appeal, but with some performance upgrades. Ofcourse I will keep all original parts to revert to standard easily.

The bodyshell needs to be repaired in the way it came from the factory and most parts will be Nos or good replica's to be replaced over time.

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:08 am
by Jebo
New floors and sills:

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Right side of the car:

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`Ready:

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Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:24 am
by Jebo
Rear floor repair:
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Some upgrades (not for the purists...):

Boat board and sparewheel clamb:
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Rearshelf repair:
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Rear seatbelt upgrade:

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Now waiting for new panels for the front and doors!

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:25 pm
by JC T ONE
Pwoar - that welding porn for yea 8-)

Nice work 8-)


Did it already have boot board brackets on the rear bulk head :?:

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:26 pm
by JC T ONE
Jebo wrote:Thanks JC T One for your reply!


The goal is to have an original appeal, but with some performance upgrades. Ofcourse I will keep all original parts to revert to standard easily.

Good plan 8-)

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:23 pm
by mk1
SUPERB WORK!

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:57 pm
by Jebo
Thank you for all the positive replies!!! Looking forward already to the end result! :D

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:19 am
by Jebo
Some questions for the experts!

How can I find out the exact build date? British Motor Industry Heritage states they only have record for minis built between 1959-1969 and 1977-1981.

Moreover where was this car build, some say Seneffe (Belgium) due to the larger indicator lights?
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I believe the differences to see if it is an early mk3 850 are the following or are there more? :roll:
Mk2 boothandle:
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Magic wand:
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Iginition key in the center and plastic heaterbox:
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Thicker chrome opening rear windows:
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Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:52 pm
by Jebo
Can anyone help me to identify to the build date of my Mini like stated in my previous post?

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:32 pm
by nick@dunsdale
Yep I had an 850 with centre key start and wand gearstick.

Also pretty sure you car is different spec to uk 850's as the mk3 850's had fixed non opening quarter glass. Also only had a centre speedo, no fuel or temp gauges.

Unlike the 1000's witch had both the above.

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:40 am
by JC T ONE
The 850 kept the magic want upto October 72, when the whole Mini range got the rod change system.

The bigger front indicators were also used on the MK III Cooper S cars, that were sold here in Denmark.

Check to see if your car have the MK II interior light ?


Did you save the body no from your front panel ?

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:47 am
by Craig
Nice to see a proper job being done !!! Spot welding porn for sure !!!!!

Bet it will be nice when finished. :D
Those front signal lights where also used for the Canadian market cars .

Craig

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:28 am
by Jebo
thanks for the replies!

Yes I have the mk2 interiorlight and the bodynumber is : 228609

Looking forward to an indication of the build date!

Was it build in Sneffe Belgium?

Re: 1971 Early MK3 850

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:04 am
by Jebo
And some further progress:

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