Handbrake release rod
-
- 998 Cooper
- Posts: 603
- Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:29 am
- Location: Collegeville,PA USA
Handbrake release rod
My release rod is bent.
Is there a non-destructive way to remove it?
Will either Grip or release knob come off?
What are my options?
Is there a non-destructive way to remove it?
Will either Grip or release knob come off?
What are my options?
Roger Williams
1966 Austin Cooper S - LHD - Wet - Personal Export
1966 Austin Cooper S - LHD - Wet - Personal Export
-
- 998 Cooper
- Posts: 603
- Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:29 am
- Location: Collegeville,PA USA
Re: Handbrake release rod
I was able to remove grip using wd-40.
I was also able to spread the handle along the seam and remove the release rod.
I then straightened the release rod.
I was also able to spread the handle along the seam and remove the release rod.
I then straightened the release rod.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Roger Williams
1966 Austin Cooper S - LHD - Wet - Personal Export
1966 Austin Cooper S - LHD - Wet - Personal Export
-
- 998 Cooper
- Posts: 603
- Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:29 am
- Location: Collegeville,PA USA
Re: Handbrake release rod
Next question re: the pawl (thingy at end of release rod that locks onto the ratchet).
Here is the pawl before I removed the release rod.
I believe the pawl needs to be reversed. When I did this and mechanism seems to work - pull handle to engage, depress button to release.
Can anyone confirm the orientation of the pawl?
Here is the pawl before I removed the release rod.
I believe the pawl needs to be reversed. When I did this and mechanism seems to work - pull handle to engage, depress button to release.
Can anyone confirm the orientation of the pawl?
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Roger Williams
1966 Austin Cooper S - LHD - Wet - Personal Export
1966 Austin Cooper S - LHD - Wet - Personal Export
- Maddog
- 850 Super
- Posts: 134
- Joined: Wed May 13, 2015 12:09 am
- Location: Cambridge, Tasmania, Australia
- Been thanked: 1 time
Re: Handbrake release rod
Hi Roger, the white nylon knob may screw on, but most are just a press fit. Either way, if you can twist it lefty-loosey it should free up and either unscrew or pull off.
That handbrake has been modified to "fly-off" operation (lift and press button to hold, lift and drop to release) with a different pawl, and the bend in the activating rod. If you want to return the unit to conventional operation (lift to hold, push button to release) you will need a straight pawl, and either straighten or replace the actuating rod for a straight one.
Personally I have a flyoff handbrake in my Mk1 and while it takes a bit of getting used to after jumping out of another car, it is fun for handbrake turns on gravel, eg motorkhanas/autotests and is also apparently a great anti-theft device as most young blaggers have never encountered one before.
Matt (Maddog)
That handbrake has been modified to "fly-off" operation (lift and press button to hold, lift and drop to release) with a different pawl, and the bend in the activating rod. If you want to return the unit to conventional operation (lift to hold, push button to release) you will need a straight pawl, and either straighten or replace the actuating rod for a straight one.
Personally I have a flyoff handbrake in my Mk1 and while it takes a bit of getting used to after jumping out of another car, it is fun for handbrake turns on gravel, eg motorkhanas/autotests and is also apparently a great anti-theft device as most young blaggers have never encountered one before.
Matt (Maddog)
- Peter Laidler
- 1275 Cooper S
- Posts: 6397
- Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:35 pm
- Location: Abingdon Oxfordshire
- Has thanked: 138 times
- Been thanked: 118 times
Re: Handbrake release rod
Quite recently, within the last year or so, there was a comprehensive article from someone about refurbishing the complete hand brake assembly
- Peter Laidler
- 1275 Cooper S
- Posts: 6397
- Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:35 pm
- Location: Abingdon Oxfordshire
- Has thanked: 138 times
- Been thanked: 118 times
Re: Handbrake release rod
That's it Bob....... I knew I'd seen it because your article prompted me to replace the pull-bar, fixings and make new stainless trunnion nuts for mine
-
- 998 Cooper
- Posts: 603
- Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:29 am
- Location: Collegeville,PA USA
Re: Handbrake release rod
So... it appears I acted in haste! ... or you guys did not respond soon enough (just kidding)!
I now know what a fly-off handbrake is. This is good.
The previous owner did enjoy autocross competitions. I have articles and trophies to prove it. This is also good.
So... based upon your feedback it appears he modified the original handbrake and made it a fly-off handbrake. This is also good (for him).
So... not knowing about the conversion and how a fly-off handbrake works I tried to “fix” the “broken” handbrake. The rod was clearly bent and the ratcheting was not coming into play .. it was not functioning as I expected.
My options are :
1) obtain original pawl and rivet (and possibly a rod) and return to a “standard” handbrake
2) re-bend the release rod and get the “fly-off” handbrake functioning (as it was originally)
Since the original pawl is not available through normal suppliers I will opt for #2 for now. I can convert back later.
I have found several sources that a conversion kit would include instructions which may have included bending the rod.
Does anyone have any specifics re: the proper bend?
I now know what a fly-off handbrake is. This is good.
The previous owner did enjoy autocross competitions. I have articles and trophies to prove it. This is also good.
So... based upon your feedback it appears he modified the original handbrake and made it a fly-off handbrake. This is also good (for him).
So... not knowing about the conversion and how a fly-off handbrake works I tried to “fix” the “broken” handbrake. The rod was clearly bent and the ratcheting was not coming into play .. it was not functioning as I expected.
My options are :
1) obtain original pawl and rivet (and possibly a rod) and return to a “standard” handbrake
2) re-bend the release rod and get the “fly-off” handbrake functioning (as it was originally)
Since the original pawl is not available through normal suppliers I will opt for #2 for now. I can convert back later.
I have found several sources that a conversion kit would include instructions which may have included bending the rod.
Does anyone have any specifics re: the proper bend?
Roger Williams
1966 Austin Cooper S - LHD - Wet - Personal Export
1966 Austin Cooper S - LHD - Wet - Personal Export
-
- 998 Cooper
- Posts: 603
- Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:29 am
- Location: Collegeville,PA USA
Re: Handbrake release rod
I was able to re-bend the release rod and now the handbrake seems to function fine in “fly-off” mode.
Now I am looking for the pawl to pivot rivet #21A910.
On the right in this picture.
Usual suppliers and local store have nothing.
Does anyone know the type and dimensions so I can check rivet suppliers on-line?
Now I am looking for the pawl to pivot rivet #21A910.
On the right in this picture.
Usual suppliers and local store have nothing.
Does anyone know the type and dimensions so I can check rivet suppliers on-line?
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Roger Williams
1966 Austin Cooper S - LHD - Wet - Personal Export
1966 Austin Cooper S - LHD - Wet - Personal Export