The under 18 non white population of the UK amounted to 21% in 2011. I find it hard to believe that this has increased by more than 50% in ten years. We will know in 8 months time.
This wasn't meant to be a general criticism of Chinese manufacturing or the UK immigration policy (how did we stray onto that?). They are capable of fantastic workmanship - just not in this case.
These particular rods are £273 delivered to your door vs almost £1000 plus postage for the equivalent from Swiftune/MED.
I can fully understand why HRE wanted to test them because they represent a huge saving if you're building a race engine on a budget.
The description and images on eBay are very tempting, even showing TUV approval:
Exminiman wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:47 am
Out of interest, does anyone know how much these rods weigh in comparison to say MED or Swift H beam ?
I've never handled one of these from eBay but I did buy a set from Specialist Components (around £500) and I can't help thinking they come from a similar source. They were 6" versions with bush for 18mm pin. They were 570g each vs 410g each Swiftune - 39% heavier.
Their extra width meant that they hit the cylinder walls at TDC. I sent them back.
It's hard to part with £1000 for rods but look at these images and then tell me you can't see where the money goes.
Andy
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Globalisation has moved manufacturing away from the UK to Eastern European countries thanks to the Fucking EU (new Land Rover Defender manufactured in Slovakia )and the Far East
EU only wanted us in for our money.
They paid Ford to move Transit factory from Southampton to Turkey, even though Turkey wasnt in EU.
A few yrs ago EU brought out the Tobacco directive to cut smoking.
2 stupid rules in it.
1.--stop selling packets of 10 cigs so kids cant afford to buy them,not thinking about few kids getting together and buying a 20 packet..
2-- tobacco growers because they are classed as farmers got subsidies.
Lots more stupid rules but protesting about it did no good,our minister went over and signed the bill without telling Parliment..
Exminiman wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:47 am
Out of interest, does anyone know how much these rods weigh in comparison to say MED or Swift H beam ?
I've never handled one of these from eBay but I did buy a set from Specialist Components (around £500) and I can't help thinking they come from a similar source. They were 6" versions with bush for 18mm pin. They were 570g each vs 410g each Swiftune - 39% heavier.
Their extra width meant that they hit the cylinder walls at TDC. I sent them back.
It's hard to part with £1000 for rods but look at these images and then tell me you can't see where the money goes.
Andy
Thanks for that, really interesting, begs couple of questions...
Guys, I would appreciate it if you didn't keep hijacking this technical post to argue politics.
There are plenty of other places on the internet to do that if you must.
Andy
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Lakeland997 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:30 pm
Guys, I would appreciate it if you didn't keep hijacking this technical post to argue politics.
There are plenty of other places on the internet to do that if you must.
Andy
Second that, I would imagine it might make our friends from other countries feel a bit awkward, as well
Lakeland997 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:30 pm
Guys, I would appreciate it if you didn't keep hijacking this technical post to argue politics.
There are plenty of other places on the internet to do that if you must.
Andy
Second that, I would imagine it might make our friends from other countries feel a bit awkward, as well
Point taken
I’m beginning to feel a bit awkward as well,watching TV, especially the adverts
Lakeland997 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:30 pm
Guys, I would appreciate it if you didn't keep hijacking this technical post to argue politics.
There are plenty of other places on the internet to do that if you must.
Andy
Second that, I would imagine it might make our friends from other countries feel a bit awkward, as well
Point taken
I’m beginning to feel a bit awkward as well,watching TV, especially the adverts
In the end its like always: you get what you pay for it!
I remember a time when people spend time in modifying rods to save weight and so, resulting in a set of beautifully crafted rod's and had a lot of fun with these in their mini engine's.
Today people believe they can buy good looking cheap parts and have a super hammer engine wich costs not even the half and then are jelling when something went wrong...
i put a set of the specialist component rods in the latest supercharged arden build, after Andy's warning some time back i knew to watch for bore clearance, they cleared but it was close! SC were the only place i could find the rods in a non s size, even the big names only listed S sizes or i would have gone for one of those. As a good benefit they clear the cam lobes on an 8 port with room to spare.
Wanna see what I'm playing with? Youtube Channel
Caution may contain 8 Ports, Xe's and VTec's, I don't do standard!
Whilst I'm not claiming that the Chinese rods are anything fantastic, if you use them as an alternative to crappy 50+ year old standard Rods they are a pretty good buy. I have used them in 2 fairly quick engines without any issues too before now. Yes, not brilliant, but what do you expect for £250 ?
Good to see the EU bashers still can't help themselves, if you hadn't noticed, you got your way & we left. Time to move on & stop whinging!
may contain 8 Ports, Xe's and VTec's, I don't do standard!
)and the Far East