Idler gear bearing remover .. wanted to borrow.

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Does anyone have an early idler gear bearing puller I can borrow ? We have the later one for the larger bearing.

Postage paid both ways of course :)

I've done the gearbox one but its the transfer housing one that's difficult to get out.

Anyone got any tips about doing it without the puller ?

One of those jobs that is piss easy with the correct tool but a swine without.
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Andrew, I think I just heated my housing up to 250 or 300F and it basically dropped out if I remember correctly. I may have used one of those cheap expanding mandrel inside bearing pullers but I don't think it needed it.

Was a while ago so I may be all wrong.
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Had to prise the needles out of mine and then dremel the cage.
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Thanks for the replies.

After a little more thought I did similar to you Whistler as I couldn't wait to find the right tool. :lol:

Heating would certainly make it easier Gary and I'll warm it up before pressing the new one in tomorrow, along with the new first motion nose bearing track (currently in the freezer to shrink it a bit).
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Easy way to remove those, get a very close fitting mandrel (actually, an old idler gear shaft works well)

Fill the bearing with grease (enough to fill the void behind the bearing and the bearing itself), put the shaft in, and, give it a couple of bonks with your favorite big hammer, bearing pops right out...

You may have to add grease once or twice till you get all the air out...


















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Really like the hydraulic method will have to try it .
I’ve removed blind needle rollers in the past with a cut about penny washer.
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That is interesting indeed. I have an old housing I can experiment that technique on.
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Let us know how you get on! These bearings are tricky to get out.
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Should have Googled it ... this seems a pretty good idea

http://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/to ... sfer-case/
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I have the proper churchill tool for this . Very easy with the right tool.
I’m in Ipswich.
Also did you get the wheel nuts last week?
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Just in regards to heating these cases, the Factory cautioned against doing this;-

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I have the proper Churchill tool also, just find it quicker and easier using the grease method.....

It also works on the first motion shaft outer support bearing race...
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If I remember correctly it goes very easily and just falls out once you heat the case (yes, slowly and evenly in an oven!)

This is the technique one uses when disassembling and reassembling an old BMW motorcycle engine (R60/2). Really no fasteners involved, just the use of steel parts and aluminum housings and an oven.

Don't need any tools at all!
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Except an oven..........
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Now that’s going to be a problem , under the present circumstances you can’t rely on the wife going out for a few hours so you can use the oven . You also need time for the smell to disperse .
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roymck wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:43 am Now that’s going to be a problem , under the present circumstances you can’t rely on the wife going out for a few hours so you can use the oven . You also need time for the smell to disperse .
:lol: :lol:

With my other half's acute sense of smell, she'd need to be out of the house for a month :shock:
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IanD1965 wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:50 pm I have the proper churchill tool for this . Very easy with the right tool.
I’m in Ipswich.
Also did you get the wheel nuts last week?
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For Dermott ? Yes, I did thanks Ian.

Might have to pay you a visit one day with my spare housings to get the bearings out ;) ... when we can go out again :(
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I can send it , no problem.
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Gary Schulz wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:02 am If I remember correctly it goes very easily and just falls out once you heat the case (yes, slowly and evenly in an oven!)

This is the technique one uses when disassembling and reassembling an old BMW motorcycle engine (R60/2). Really no fasteners involved, just the use of steel parts and aluminum housings and an oven.

Don't need any tools at all!
I see a lot of cases here that have been heated. Some can actually be repaired / reworked and some can't.
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IanD1965 wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:38 am I can send it , no problem.
PM sent Ian :)
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