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surfblue63 · Post by **surfblue63** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:36 am

A couple of results from last Saturdays auction at Barons

1071S for £42900, around £40k seams the going rate these days.

http://www.barons-auctions.com/auction_ ... 4&cid=2208

Cheap running and MoT'd Elf, there are still bargains out there if you not too fussy about originality.

http://www.barons-auctions.com/auction_ ... 4&cid=2223

docka · Post by **docka** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:42 am

Not a bad deal that Elf although how do they claim it will still be MOT exempt under the new rules when it has a 1275 engine?

Post by **Andrew1967** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:32 am

As I understand it, if it’s an A series engine it will still qualify, no matter the CC

Problems arise with a complete change of engine type.

Post by **Pete** » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:18 pm

Unusually for a U.S car there's not much original car left but this '67 Mk1 S has been restored and now on BAT...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967- ... 2018-04-25

Hippo · Post by **Hippo** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:27 am

Varied selection of Minis at Historics next month

https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... ke=&q=mini

docka · Post by **docka** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:38 pm

Andrew1967 wrote:As I understand it, if it’s an A series engine it will still qualify, no matter the CC

Problems arise with a complete change of engine type.

That sounds sensible, let’s hope it turns out that way

Post by **Pete** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:05 pm

Hippo wrote:Varied selection of Minis at Historics next month

https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... ke=&q=mini

And.... the Upside down door cards award of the week goes to...... (*drum roll....*) ....

https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... oper-to-s/

I remember that car on 13" wheels.

surfblue63 · Post by **surfblue63** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:25 pm

And £10,000 for a leather interior!!!!!

https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... ini-minor/

Post by **Pete** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:32 pm

surfblue63 wrote:And £10,000 for a leather interior!!!!!

https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... ini-minor/

That doesn't sound right at all!

That car's chances of meeting a £25K reserve are slim to outa town!

surfblue63 · Post by **surfblue63** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:42 pm

A first glance that red Mk2 998 looks honest, but the dodgy over sills could be hiding something nasty.

surfblue63 · Post by **surfblue63** » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:18 am

Pete wrote:
Brynmor wrote:
Hippo wrote:The bitsa is back
https://www.swva.co.uk/classic-car/aust ... tion-1974/
I'm presuming it's been to auction before? What sort of figure did it achieve and what's it likely to achieve do we think?

It's ticking lots of boxes for me, would seem an ideal highdays and holidays mode of travel
Its a Cooper S in all but logbook essentially so I suspect it'll go to high teens if not more?!

It did not sell again so I guess it will be up for private treaty sale for a week or so.

Others results from the SWVA sale include (quoted prices are hammer, add 8%+VAT for commission)

Black MK2 Saloon at £5600
https://www.swva.co.uk/classic-car/morr ... mkll-1968/

1275GT with trailer (Works Car?) £15500
https://www.swva.co.uk/classic-car/aust ... 5-gt-1972/

MG Metro MK2 £3000
https://www.swva.co.uk/classic-car/mg-metro-1987/

View the rest of the results here
https://www.swva.co.uk/auction-category ... ount=23419

Post by **Pete** » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:17 am

This number plate looks familiar...

http://www.silverstoneauctions.com/morr ... per-s-1275

Anyway it was the description that surprised me :

"It was built on the 4th December 1964 and first registered on the 1st of January, 1965, presumably to take advantage of the change in registration number suffix, and on its Heritage Certificate, the only extras listed are a heater and 4.5” rims. Although twin petrol tanks were chosen by most 1275S customers (standard from '66) there was an option to just have one and this car's first owner exercised that option and also preferred that the car was fitted with 'dry' suspension as opposed to the new 'Hydrolastic' system which arrived in 1964. However, the main reason this Cooper is unusual is that it has only been enjoyed by two owners, the last (our vendor) for 43 years!"

Most 1275 Ss had the optional extra tank specified? I doubt it but I've also not heard of ordering dry suspension instead of wet either!

mk1coopers · Post by **mk1coopers** » Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:04 am

From the photos it looks like quite a lot of Mini and not much S (apart from the identity)

Vintage to Classic · Post by **Vintage to Classic** » Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:49 am

The irony is that some Cooper “S” replicas look more Cooper “S” than that!!!!
It looks so plain. No corner bars, no trim on door frames or sills.
And there is no mention of dry suspension or one tank on certificate.

Post by **Pete** » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:48 am

Only an extra fuel tank would appear on the production record. I’ve certainly not heard of a dry suspension option! Missing parts wouldn’t sway me to much but the descriptions imaginative !

Post by **Costafortune** » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:30 am

Pete wrote:This number plate looks familiar...

http://www.silverstoneauctions.com/morr ... per-s-1275

Father of the Mini, Alec Issigonis was firmly against the idea of a performance version of his new baby, despite several long evenings of animated discussion with his good friend, F1 guru, John Cooper in the Royal Oak. However, after JC appealed to BMC Management, Issigonis' concerns were disregarded and the two good friends eventually cooperated in creating what rapidly became and still remains a legendary little motor car. Is that enough mindless bullshit yet? The first cars used a 997cc twin-carb A-series, changed for a short-stroke 998cc unit from 1964. Front disc brakes were standard and Mini-Coopers stood out thanks to their two-tone paint schemes and special grilles. These nimble little cars soon established their credentials as race and rally winners, and the stage was set for even faster versions. The first of these - the 1,071cc Mini Cooper 'S' of 1963 - took engine development a stage further and provided the basis for the 970 'S' and 1275 'S' of 1964. The ultimate Mini of its day, the 1275 'S', pumped out 76bhp while remaining exceptionally flexible, and was good for a genuine 100mph - an astonishing performance at the time. That must be enough recycled crap from Wikipedia?

"However, the main reason the V5 is unusual is that it has only been enjoyed by two owners, the last (our vendor) for 43 years!"

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Post by **Costafortune** » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:36 am

Pete wrote:
Hippo wrote:Varied selection of Minis at Historics next month

https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... ke=&q=mini
And.... the Upside down door cards award of the week goes to...... (*drum roll....*) ....

https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... oper-to-s/

I remember that car on 13" wheels.

It also wins the 'wrong speedo' trophy. Love the freshly minted chassis plate - nothing iffy about that whatsoever.

Hippo · Post by **Hippo** » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:42 pm

Looks like the bitsa did sell
https://www.swva.co.uk/classic-car/aust ... tion-1974/

surfblue63 · Post by **surfblue63** » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:01 pm

Hippo wrote:Looks like the bitsa did sell
https://www.swva.co.uk/classic-car/aust ... tion-1974/

Must have sold by private treaty as it was not sold when I checked the results

Post by **Pete** » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:27 pm

surfblue63 wrote:
Hippo wrote:Looks like the bitsa did sell
https://www.swva.co.uk/classic-car/aust ... tion-1974/
Must have sold by private treaty as it was not sold when I checked the results

About £12K, all S spec, looks a very decent shell. A good buy I'd say!

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