Number plate brackets

Post any technical questions or queries here.
Post Reply
arnie
Basic 850
Posts: 80
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:31 pm
Location: west midlands uk

Number plate brackets

Post by arnie »

Hi from newbie
I have noticed that mini front number plate brackets have 2 different widths ,can anybody tell me the change over dates from narrow to wide.
regards Steve
User avatar
Nick W
1275 Cooper S
Posts: 2892
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:59 pm
Location: sheffield
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 8 times

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by Nick W »

..my mk1 and mk2 where 16" wide so l guess they changed to narrow at mk3

Nick
Up North in Sheffield
User avatar
dodge44
998 Cooper
Posts: 567
Joined: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:21 pm
Location: Dorset

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by dodge44 »

Nick W wrote:..my mk1 and mk2 where 16" wide so l guess they changed to narrow at mk3

Nick
Suspect the OP means the width of the bracket itself, not the spacing distance apart? Original brackets were 7/8" wide and later considerably more. Replacement front panels all seem to be supplied with the much wider variant.
User avatar
Nick W
1275 Cooper S
Posts: 2892
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:59 pm
Location: sheffield
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 8 times

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by Nick W »

some of the smaller brackets here

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMC-Austin-Mo ... Sw9NdXwaIQ

Nick
Up North in Sheffield
arnie
Basic 850
Posts: 80
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:31 pm
Location: west midlands uk

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by arnie »

I did not explain properly it is the width of the brackets I referred to. Not sure of the model and date they changed ,would like to know the type for a 65 mk1 cooper s.Thanks
User avatar
Hipwell
1275 Cooper S
Posts: 1379
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:02 pm
Location: Solihull, UK
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 3 times

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by Hipwell »

They are the narrow type you need for 65.

The new front panels have the wider ones as standard which is always a giveaway.
Daz1968
1275 Cooper S
Posts: 1440
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:41 pm
Location: Oldbury west midlands

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by Daz1968 »

Just get a modified front panel from m machine as they are fitted with correct number plate brackets, then also purchase the correct indicator plinths from them as well. I have recently fitted one to my car and the fit is pretty good. Saves the hassle of altering things yourself.
User avatar
dodge44
998 Cooper
Posts: 567
Joined: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:21 pm
Location: Dorset

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by dodge44 »

Ok, so whilst we have established narrow brackets are correct for a '65 vehicle, can anyone identify the actual changeover point - Was it possibly with the other changes in late 1966 or was it as Mini Machine imply at the introduction of the Mk2 in late 1967?
Daz1968
1275 Cooper S
Posts: 1440
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:41 pm
Location: Oldbury west midlands

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by Daz1968 »

If I had to guess I would think the changeover was when they went from solid to rubber mounted in 1976,
mini_surfari
1275 Cooper S
Posts: 773
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:26 am
Location: South West
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 4 times

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by mini_surfari »

Is there other any opinions on this topic?

Will be doing the indicators on the 72 van, so will do the number plate brackets too if this is the case.
mk1
Site Admin
Posts: 19834
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:30 am
Location: Away with the Faries
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 10 times

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by mk1 »

I agree with Daz's guestimate. Sometime in the mid 70's or later.
User avatar
Simon776
1275 Cooper S
Posts: 1181
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:08 pm
Location: Shakspere's county

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by Simon776 »

April 1970 cars had the fat brackets, I've seen original BMC front panels with fat brackets wide spaced.
Last edited by Simon776 on Thu May 13, 2021 9:28 am, edited 1 time in total.
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who do not possess it.
mk1
Site Admin
Posts: 19834
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:30 am
Location: Away with the Faries
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 10 times

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by mk1 »

Thanks Simon.

Sorted.
mini_surfari
1275 Cooper S
Posts: 773
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:26 am
Location: South West
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 4 times

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by mini_surfari »

Hmm,

Just came across this, 1972 shell ... may or may not be the original front panel
s-l1600.jpg

Edit: I know its a trivial issue, just spent so much time on the shell up to now, the extra time to sort a potential easy job wont hurt! :lol:
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
Simon776
1275 Cooper S
Posts: 1181
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:08 pm
Location: Shakspere's county

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by Simon776 »

Probably not the original front panel on the blue car above; judging by the welding shown in the images on the eBay listing. Image below shows a very original 1970 Mk 3 S with wide spaced fat brackets
Plate bracket early.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who do not possess it.
mini_surfari
1275 Cooper S
Posts: 773
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:26 am
Location: South West
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 4 times

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by mini_surfari »

Thanks for the photo Simon!

I was doing some further digging last night, and found both these early 70's cars with the wind skinny brackets too. (all be it spanish built, and export)

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971- ... mini-1000/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973- ... mini-1000/

Obviously, no idea how genuine the cars are like the one you've shown.

Better get on with widening them either way. Thanks for the replies!
User avatar
TECH396
998 Cooper
Posts: 430
Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:12 pm
Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by TECH396 »

Better get on with widening them either way. Thanks for the replies!
[/quote]
I'm not sure if this helps.
My 68 is a North American Export, and is very original. The brackets are the narrow ones, Not the fat ones like the mk3s
Paul H.
AndyPen
1275 Cooper S
Posts: 3920
Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:55 pm
Location: South Wales
Has thanked: 18 times
Been thanked: 50 times

Re: Number plate brackets

Post by AndyPen »

mini_surfari wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 2:18 pm Hmm,

Just came across this, 1972 shell ... may or may not be the original front panel

s-l1600.jpg


Edit: I know its a trivial issue, just spent so much time on the shell up to now, the extra time to sort a potential easy job wont hurt! :lol:
I suspect that is a genuine Rover replacement for earlier cars. I have an identical one - from around 1990.
Post Reply