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Appendix K? J? Help
Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 9:47 pm
by Chalkie
Hello Guys
What Appendix would a Mk3 or mk4 come under? or had they completely left motor sport by then? so it doesn't exist?
Thanks
Stephen
Re: Appendix K? J? Help
Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 4:17 am
by Astro
Hi,
it depends on where you live and what you want to do. Annex K is the FIA way to do historic motorsport. Not simple and not cheap. A MK3 or 4 will become a period G2 or period H car. These are the regulations:
http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/ ... 2%29_0.pdf and
http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/ ... full-e.pdf You may build a group 1 or group 2 car with these regulations but the paperwork is more difficult than the mechanics.
Appendix J is the FIA way to do actual motorsport. In the 1990ies Rover decided to homologate the spi and mpi once more to do the Monte Carlo. This was done for public relation reasons and today you would be the only one to ride such a mini (we did in the 1990ies). For example a Peugeot 106 rallye will be much faster and less expensive in the same class.
Today there are a lot of national events not controlled by a national motorsport authority being a lot easier to enter. If you have an idea want you want to do, this forum may give some hints.
Re: Appendix K? J? Help
Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 10:50 pm
by Chalkie
Thanks Helped a bit under stand a bit more now
just wanted to see what its all about and that
I do wanna do a few Hill Climbs and that but nothing mega
Re: Appendix K? J? Help
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:40 am
by Astro
If you just want to do some hillclimb nearby and not want to go abroad, it's better to look for the national regulations. Otherwise you should search a Cooper S or 1275GT, install the necessary safety equipment, look for a license for you and one for your Car and more money.

Re: Appendix K? J? Help
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:52 am
by Chalkie
Ah if that's the case then Ill look at national rules its only just to have a play.
Thanks
Re: Appendix K? J? Help
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:09 pm
by sclemow
Local and National hillclimbs and sprints aren't covered by FIA rules. You can modify as you like providing it meets the MSA blue book regulations. The class you end up in will depend upon what you choose to modify.
Fundamentally, in most regions and championships you're choice is to enter the up to 1400cc road going class or up to 1400cc mod prod.
If your going for road going it needs to be taxed and mot'd, it needs to be running the original block in the original position and you need to be running road tyres (in some cases there are lists of which ones). From memory you need to be running all the seats inside (you might want to check that though as it's been a while since I've been in a roadgoing class??) and you are not allowed to modify the sillouhette. You are free to put adjustable suspension, roll cages, seats, modify the engine, change the gearing, put in a s/c box, fibreglass/carbon panels etc etc.
Check out the blue book here :
http://www.msauk.org/uploadedfiles/msa_ ... arbook.pdf
I'd also highly recommend going to a hillclimb and talking to some of the mini drivers.
You may also be interested in the DEWs championship which suits mini's ......
http://www.bjautobits.co.uk/dews-speed-series.htm
Cheers
Simon
Re: Appendix K? J? Help
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:09 pm
by Chalkie
Nice one thank you ill check