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GRX 309D (Pictures Wanted)

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:15 pm
by spoon.450
Does anyone have any pics. of GRX 309D on the 1966 rally of the flowers, the Polish, the Welsh, or anything prior to the RAC ?
Thanks
Dave

Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:48 pm
by JC T ONE
There were a thread with loads of pictures & story on GRX 309D on the old MCR forum.

Think its owner posted inhere a couple of times too.

Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:58 am
by Pete
I think they were mainly photos and discussion of the race car that went to Sebring, during build and subsequent history. The current Stateside owner of this very genuine car did frequent this parish some time ago as you say JC. I've very few pictures of it other than on the RAC (loads of 310 and 311D) but do have one of it on the Polish I think which I'll dig out.

Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:17 pm
by spoon.450
Thanks JC / Pete. Would you mind uploading that if you find it please Pete ?
Regards
Dave

Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:58 pm
by spoon.450
Also, can anyone confirm the engine size of 309D on these events, I understand it was 970cc on the Polish ?
Thanks
Dave

Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:45 pm
by JC T ONE
spoon.450 wrote:Also, can anyone confirm the engine size of 309D on these events, I understand it was 970cc on the Polish ?
Thanks
Dave

Hi Dave,

yes it ran a 970cc in the Polish rally.
There is a great shot of it, in John Davenport,s book "Rally"



Jens Christian

Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:10 pm
by Pete
Polish Rally

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Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:21 pm
by spoon.450
Thanks Chaps.

Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:02 pm
by Pete
More 309D.......

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Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:10 pm
by Pete
From the main site :

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Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:45 pm
by spoon.450
Brilliant Pete, thank you. The ones of Paddy on the '66 Flowers ( car no.50 ) are what I was looking for.

Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:57 pm
by Pete
Quite a few differences in the cars on all three events when you look closely.

Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:10 pm
by LMM76C
Pete wrote:Quite a few differences in the cars on all three events when you look closely.
In particular, a Gp2 970S at that time would have to retain 3.5J wheels and not use arch extensions, whereas a Gp2 1275 would by then have 4.5J and arches.

Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:55 pm
by Pete
Body wise I can see different stud positions for the lamp cover straps on the wings (central on the RAC car) , different bonnet details etc...possibly a spot of the usual Abingdon number plate tennis ?

Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:41 am
by spoon.450
Also double windscreen washers for driver and co driver on car no. 50. Look very closely.

Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:56 pm
by Simon776
GRX 309D did suffer a small amount of rear end damage on the Polish Rally and possibly some side damage as well.

Even though it was a brand new car, as there also looks to have been a crease along the drivers door which, I suppose, if it extended along the side panel would have been enough to render the shell u/s as far as BMC Comps were concerned.

Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:22 pm
by spoon.450
Simon776 wrote:GRX 309D did suffer a small amount of rear end damage on the Polish Rally and possibly some side damage as well.

Even though it was a brand new car, as there also looks to have been a crease along the drivers door which, I suppose, if it extended along the side panel would have been enough to render the shell u/s as far as BMC Comps were concerned.
Thanks for that Simon, can you direct us to any pics ?

Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:47 am
by Simon776
OK hold on to your grab handle for a couple of previously unseen pictures

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Note lack of rear light lens and a small amount of damage to corner of the bumper.

Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:59 am
by Simon776
This is in parc ferme at the end of the event. Unfortunately, it is a rather dark and small picture but you can make out a line through the 56 on the door and what maybe damage to the seam/lip in front of the rear wheel although the seam trim is still in place so it can't have been that bad.

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Mind you that is nothing compared to the damage to the Tatra!

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Re: GRX 309D

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:28 pm
by spoon.450
Thanks for these new ( to me ) pics of 309 Simon. We believe this is the second GRX 309D, with a third for the 66 RAC and probably a fourth for the Sebring.....then a fifth in more recent times. Any pics. from the flowers of the original car ( Pauls ) would be of interest if you know of any ??
Regards
Dave