Page 1 of 2

Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:31 pm
by Vegard
I just bought this:

Image

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FALCON-E ... true&rt=nc
I bought it to give to a friend for Christmas, but It'd be nice to know where and when it was taken. When i see what you guys write and the knowledge about old racing I'm thinking that someone on here does have to know.

Anyone? :)

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:40 pm
by rich@minispares.com
could you make it a harder challenge and have a more squint tiny photo verg! :lol:

possibly brands hatch coming round the older graham hill bend?

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:56 pm
by Vegard
I don't want it to be too easy do I? :)

I'll try to scan it and post here. Bigger :-D

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:38 pm
by foxy52
Vegard wrote:I just bought this:

Image

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FALCON-E ... true&rt=nc
I bought it to give to a friend for Christmas, but It'd be nice to know where and when it was taken. When i see what you guys write and the knowledge about old racing I'm thinking that someone on here does have to know.

Anyone? :)
...mmmm nice big falcon.. take a look at u tubes vid of Jack Sears for example ? formerly BTCC champ from the golden days of saloon car racing 1950,s thru the early 70,s....plenty of shots of galaxies,falcons,cortinas,anglias,minis and mk 1 escorts etc....foxy52

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:47 pm
by rich@minispares.com
foxy52 wrote: ...mmmm nice big falcon.. take a look at u tubes vid of Jack Sears for example ? formerly BTCC champ from the golden days of saloon car racing 1950,s thru the early 70,s....plenty of shots of galaxies,falcons,cortinas,anglias,minis and mk 1 escorts etc....foxy52

foxy, falcons where actually not that big as they where based on the same floorpan as the mustang, which was a mid range car - for proper big yankie cars you need galaxies and stuff like that!


alan minshaw (from demon tweeks) over took me once in a Malibu he raced, he started to come past me as we came out of druids and was still going past me as we turned into graham hill - its was huuuggggeeee! it was like been overtaken by an artic lorry :lol:

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:59 pm
by JC T ONE
rich@minispares.com wrote:
for proper big yankie cars you need galaxies and stuff like that!


alan minshaw (from demon tweeks) over took me once in a Malibu he raced, he started to come past me as we came out of druids and was still going past me as we turned into graham hill -

its was huuuggggeeee! it was like been overtaken by an artic lorry :lol:
Loool - and what happened after you came out of Graham Hill ? who was in front then ?

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:00 pm
by SMOKE GREY
Oulton Park

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:31 pm
by Pete
SMOKE GREY wrote:Oulton Park
I agree , looks like Cascades going on to Lakeside and I'd say 1969. That would make the Falcon Dennis Leech, followed by Frank Gardner and Mike Crabtree.

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:45 pm
by surfblue63
Pete wrote:
SMOKE GREY wrote:Oulton Park
I agree , looks like Cascades going on to Lakeside and I'd say 1969. That would make the Falcon Dennis Leech, followed by Frank Gardner and Mike Crabtree.

I think Oulton as well, but not sure it is Denis Leech

There's a shot of Denis Leech at the 1969 Gold Cup on the following link and his car is wearing a front number plate.

http://www.mikehaywardcollection.com/pr ... sprint.htm

On the following link is a blue car No.4 which I think is the Falcon in question, note the large brake ducts and the leather strap that is at the centre of teh grille. Unfortunately there is no text to go with the shot and I can not match that car number up to any driver.

http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthr ... con-Sprint

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:57 pm
by surfblue63
Vegard wrote:I bought it to give to a friend for Christmas, but It'd be nice to know where and when it was taken. When i see what you guys write and the knowledge about old racing I'm thinking that someone on here does have to know.

Anyone? :)

Is the Falcon No.89? If so then it is Brian Miur at Oulton in 1968.

On the following link are some pictures of teh 1968 Gold Cup were John Rhodes tangles with a Cortina. Just below is a Falcon which looks very similar to teh one in your shot.

http://forums.autosport.com/topic/98145 ... rd/page-13

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:03 pm
by Brynmor
Quite a few Falcons did the 1969 season.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_Briti ... hip_season

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:04 pm
by GraemeC
There a great shot of the underside of the CCC racer in there!

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:35 pm
by 251 ENG
Any idea where I can get a good copy of the picture of the upside down CCC racer ?

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:13 pm
by contour51
Pete wrote:
SMOKE GREY wrote:Oulton Park
I agree , looks like Cascades going on to Lakeside and I'd say 1969. That would make the Falcon Dennis Leech, followed by Frank Gardner and Mike Crabtree.
I also firmly believe the photo was taken at 'Oulton Park' ,however a year earlier on the 17th August 1968.
Showing 'David Hobbs' in the blue and orange 'Malcolm Gartland Racing ' Falcon Sprint ,followed by 'Frank Gardner ' in the 'Allan Mann' Escort TC ,followed by 'Chris Craft' in the 'Broadspeed ' Escort 1300GT.
The 3rd car could not be 'Mike Crabtree' as 'John Willments Racing ' livery for their 'Saloon Cars' was always white ,with a red side stripe .It's also important to remember that this photo is just one "still" from the whole race and not necessarily that of their finishing positions.

Cheers Gareth

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:21 pm
by Pete
Quite right, I'm a year out. Definately losing it . :oops:

I've got those Bruton shots of Rhodes' car, I'll see if they're any better res. Also got all Maureen McGee's shots from the same event showing the mangled car back in the pits.

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:55 am
by 251 ENG
Thanks Pete , that would be really helpfull :D

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:20 am
by Vegard
It's hard to see, but I do think it's 89 on the side.

Looks very much like this car:

Image
Image

The leather bonnet strap being a tell tale.

Nice to see it in front of the worlds most famous Escort as well :)

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:36 am
by Pete
251 ENG wrote:Thanks Pete , that would be really helpfull :D
How are you progressing with your CCC rep Simon ? I'll sort you some photos out and email 'em to you.

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:53 am
by rich@minispares.com
JC T ONE wrote:
Loool - and what happened after you came out of Graham Hill ? who was in front then ?
he lifted off as he got alongside me and it backfired so loud I crapped my self as I thought my engine had let go


there was a funny story about his car as well, it was so big that he couldn't drive it through the exit tunnel that went back under the track at brands, he tried once and it got stuck, he always had to go the wrong way through the 'in' tunnel

it was absolutely massive

Re: Old Ford photo. Can nayone help?

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:22 pm
by Vegard
Oh, btw guys. Thanks. For some reason I just knew that someone on here knew and boy was I right :)