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MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:24 pm
by Blue Mk2
Hello All

I have an old photo that I picked years ago

John Handley name on the front wing and it s clearly had an off

can anyone identify it

many thanks

Blue mk2

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:31 pm
by pad4
Aye - thats a mini for sure - red n white cooper S - Maybe one of the OBLs - Im thinking the pic maybe from around 68/69

Just a guess from me b4 the Experts arrive
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Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:39 pm
by Blue Mk2
I always liked it

only got black and white photo though

intrigued to know if anyone can work out where it was as well

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:39 pm
by rich@minispares.com
that's NOT a T2 hanger in the background

before any one starts! :lol:

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:22 pm
by trevorhp
After my recent crash course in hangar identification I fear you may be wrong Rich!!

That is not my car either of that I am certain....I believe I do have a picture of this car, undamaged, somewhere though, possibly in France if I recall. That does however look awfully like the old office building at Silverstone on the hangar straight...here we go.

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:31 pm
by surfblue63
Brands Hatch
Race of Champions Meeting - Guards Trophy

Date: 16/3/1969

John Handley crashed after 19 minutes in the first heat.

http://touringcarracing.net/Races/1969% ... pions.html

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:35 pm
by trevorhp
Possibly

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:50 pm
by rich@minispares.com
surfblue63 wrote:Brands Hatch

at the risk of been proved wrong (again), that's not brands hatch, I think the stands in the background are the large Silverstone ones.

im 99% sure that there was never a house type building at brands, all the stands and offices etc where on the start/finish straight and where square 1960's looking things (look at the jigsaw thread for pictures)

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:56 pm
by surfblue63
There used to be all sorts of buildings by the paddock entrance at Brands. Also there used to be stands on Paddock Hill bend. The paddock used to be at the top of the hill, just as you came in from Scratchers Lane, before they built the Kentagon in the 1970's. Also the race results that I linked would suggest it is.

Here's a nice bit of old film which shows the stands in 1969 and what looks like the building in question, @ 40sec, at the bottom of Paddock hill.

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/brand ... -champions

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:03 pm
by rich@minispares.com
surfblue63 wrote:There used to be all sorts of buildings by the paddock entrance at Brands. Also there used to be stands on Paddock Hill bend. The paddock used to be at the top of the hill, just as you came in from Scratchers Lane, before they built the Kentagon in the 1970's. Also the race results that I linked would suggest it is.
ahh, that might be it.

dammit, I used to be really good at this game, that's two - nil in a week :(

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:11 pm
by trevorhp
URX 580G ?
or LRX 827E I know that's a mk1 reg no. but ....
http://www.mikehaywardcollection.com/pr ... oD6EHC-2Sp

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:40 pm
by surfblue63
There's a couple of good pics of the sister car, No. 125, of John Rhodes here.

http://www.mikehaywardcollection.com/ca ... 1/1969.htm

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:42 pm
by Pete
Stu's right with Brands '69, the first give away is the 10" Minilite wheels used in the early part of that season (soon swapped to 12"). Handley apparently binned it after getting on the wet grass. The car wore the OBL 46F reg number in that race. Pretty poor start to Abingdon's first race season with Rhodes destroying his car aswell. I've got some nice pictures of this event from Hayward as above.

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:46 pm
by Blue Mk2
wow I'm impressed with the knowledge out there!

I bought the photo years ago at an antiques fair (sounds better than car boot...)

thanks all

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:12 pm
by Blue Mk2
Just did a search for Brands hatch 1969 and found this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGp2xqdlMc

:D

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:05 pm
by surfblue63
Blue Mk2 wrote:Just did a search for Brands hatch 1969 and found this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGp2xqdlMc

:D

Snap

I found the same bit of footage this afternoon.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8354

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:34 pm
by Simon776
I think John Handley was in OBL 45F and John Rhodes in OBL 46F.

Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:40 am
by Tim Harber
rich@minispares.com wrote:
surfblue63 wrote:
dammit, I used to be really good at this game, that's two - nil in a week :(
Helps if you are of a certain age and lived locally....

I took this in 1967 (Light has got in at top of slide and fogged it). Instamatic or Brownie I think

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Re: MK2 Photo

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:18 pm
by Pete
I couldn't find any rear shots of Handley's car from this '69 Brands race to pin down the registration though I suppose it's pretty academic as Abingdon were slapping any old rally car plate on their race cars at this point like LBL ,GRX's, LRX's, OBL's etc, makes you wonder what paperwork those old bent rally shells went out of Abingdon with (if any) when they flogged 'em all off. I've quite a few decent B&W frontal and side shots of Handley in this car and just one fuzzy colour shot :

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Both BMC and the Britax cars were still on 10" Minilites for this race.