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Why so much front positive camber ??

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:29 am
by pad4
As you know ive just finished building back up the mk3 S and its sat in the workshop with some serious spanky positive camber on the front wheels

Its sat at approximatly its right ride height - all the usual new bushes etc like ive done a million times

I would say its got about 1/2 to 3/4 degree pos camber on it

Im wondering as its been converted from hydro to dry at some point if maybe the top arms or bottom arms are not correct

or maybe thats right as ive never just built one up with std parts before

Any ideas

Pad

Re: Why so much front positive camber ??

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:48 am
by Spider
At 1/2 to 3/4 degree positive, it does sound about right. The Factory manual quotes 1 to 3 degrees positive for all Mini's however, as the S is a little lower, it will be a little more negative than other Mini's, unfortunately, the manual doesn't give a specific figure for the S's.

The geometry of the lower and upper arms are the same between wet & dry types, only the drilling for the knuckle joint location is different (as well as the hole dis for the shock or bump stop mount).

Re: Why so much front positive camber ??

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:43 pm
by pad4
Thats what i was thinking

Well ill let the new rubber cones settle in first and then set the ride height to what i want and adjust accordingly

making a mental note NOT to start throwing about the lanes just yet or ill have no sides left on my R7's

Thanks

PD

Re: Why so much front positive camber ??

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:09 pm
by Chalkie
Dose it have the engine in?

Re: Why so much front positive camber ??

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:52 pm
by ricardo
The knuckle joint position is different between hydro and dry top arms as spider said. I used hydro arms and the front camber is fine.

How high is your "normal ride height"? If I'm thinking right, the higher the ride height is (hi-lo pushing the arm to be horizontal), the more positive camber you will have.

Re: Why so much front positive camber ??

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:03 pm
by minicentie
Hi i hope with the change to dry you changed the whole subframe?
The hydro unit is kind of screwed in place,but the dry cone doesn't settle on this subframe,so will stuck a litle deeper resulting higher suspension.
It take's more than some 500 miles to settle if al is done well.
If the mini isn't settled in a high position after time,but still has a very noticable positive camber,there must be something serieus wrong,but i don't think in that direction emediatly.

Re: Why so much front positive camber ??

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:50 pm
by pad4
Engines in - just double checked

its a proper dry subframe for sure

guess i'll let it settle in for a bit before i start messing

pad

Re: Why so much front positive camber ??

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:31 pm
by Chalkie
give it a chance to settle or take it for a quick spin let it bump a few times

after we fit coil overs to new mini's they still sit near standard and drive and then let them settle they soon go down :)

all bushes and fluids and that have to move to settle in properly