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Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround?

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:00 pm
by Ratkiller
I have a 62' Morris Mini Minor Super Deluxe. Originally was there a gasket to go between the white plastic speedo guage surround and the inside fire wall? If not fitted originally, what do you recommend? As mine is a little warpped and does not fit flush. It would be nice to seal it up, to cut down on engine noise.

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:25 pm
by 66S
I am not sure about what your cars had in the UK but here in NZ, there was a soft black putty used.

Regards
Al

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:27 pm
by johnsimister
I used silicone sealant. Also stuffed soundproofing felt behind the speedo then stuck a 'bulkhead blanket' to the bulkhead on the engine side. On the cabin side, stick-on bitumastic sound deadening sheet on the bulkhead and top side of the dashboard shelf, followed by soundproofing felt on the bulkhead. It's now significantly quieter and less smelly.

John

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 12:21 am
by JC T ONE
johnsimister wrote:
I used silicone sealant.

Hi John,

I hope you used acid free silicone sealer ??

Normal silicone have acid in it, and makes the car rust.


Jens Christian

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 12:25 am
by JC T ONE
66S wrote:I am not sure about what your cars had in the UK but here in NZ, there was a soft black putty used.

Regards
Al

Here it was Grey, but still soft putty.
It stay soft, only hardens a little on the surface.

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 1:23 am
by KA2S4
Agree with the above.

My cars have had a black "putty" used from factory.
I used a black 'screen sealer on mine, never fully sets, but won't run either.

It makes a huge diference to the ammount of engine noise in the car, and also stops annoying draughts/smells.

J

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 11:23 am
by SteveG
I can Agree with James. His 970 Screamer sounds like a 848 inside the car!
You have to check the speedo to realize its not :)

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 12:18 pm
by guru_1071
I accidently discovered the perfect stuff for this, and for the winder mechanisms in mk3 doors.

when steel clad buildings are built, there is a roll of grey 'putty' than comes on a non stick backing, its about 15mm wide and goes between the sheets to stop water creeping in.

it works a treat for automotive stuff as it can be wadded up or cut thinner with a knife. its very similar to the old 'dumdum' brand stuff

when our unit was repaired after the tree fell on it, the fitters left half a roll......... 8-)

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:02 pm
by mk1
I have used similar stuff to that described by Guru.

M

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:01 pm
by Etienne B.
Sounds exactly like what I found right under the bottom chromed profiles of my '64 doors when I dismantled them to change the W shaped rails. Hope you understand my poor English !
Still Mark, where did you source your material ?

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:20 pm
by mk1
I got mine from a normal builders merchants.

It was called panel sealer if I remember rightly.

M

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:25 pm
by Ratkiller
mk1 wrote:I got mine from a normal builders merchants.

It was called panel sealer if I remember rightly.

M
"panel sealer"
I'll have to check with my hard ware store to see they carry the stuff.
Cheers.

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 5:27 pm
by steve1071
Cheers guys, just the job i'm on next

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 7:22 pm
by Ratkiller
What about a peel and stick foam weather strip?

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 7:47 pm
by Etienne B.
Me too, Steve.
Cheers Mark, will check that.
But we use some self taping foam with eventually a filler of silicone to weatherproof panels on buildings this side of the channel.
Usually for crap result, I must say.
Etienne

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:36 pm
by KA2S4
SteveG wrote:I can Agree with James. His 970 Screamer sounds like a 848 inside the car!
You have to check the speedo to realize its not :)
And I don't have any bulkhead insulation on the engine bay side, or anything stuffed in the speedo hole!

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:11 pm
by mascher
The problem with stick-on foam is that it breaks down over the years and sometimes turns to goo. Something easily obtained, non-hardening and similar to the original is plumbers putty. It's just there to fill the gap so glue isn't really necessary.

Kelley

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 11:14 am
by IAIN
I use a 3M body caulking ( 08568 ) for the dial housing to bulkhead. It is probably the same type of thing that Guru was talking about.
Its good for round the loom at the base of the dial housing and also great for bedding the door window winder on.

It's grey in colour.

I found this image on the net.

http://www.spraygunsdirect.co.uk/produc ... ts_id=7260

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 10:18 pm
by 66S
Interestiung the reference to dum-dum. I didn't mention dum-dum because I thought you UK foreigners wouldn't know what the hell I was talking about but that is the name of the stuff used for the job here.

Al

Re: Sealer/gasket between inside firewall and guage surround

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:32 am
by Old English White
IAIN wrote:I use a 3M body caulking ( 08568 ) for the dial housing to bulkhead. It is probably the same type of thing that Guru was talking about.
Its good for round the loom at the base of the dial housing and also great for bedding the door window winder on.

It's grey in colour.

I found this image on the net.

http://www.spraygunsdirect.co.uk/produc ... ts_id=7260
That's what I used on mine too. Excellent stuff with many uses and, unlike dum-dum, isn't messy and stays put :)