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DOwnton Engine . . . . .Yeh Right!

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:45 pm
by mk1
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/classic-mini- ... 1e77b42bf9

He reckons its a "Downton" unit because of the stamped marks in it. . . . These are the factory stamps & nothing to do with Downton at all.

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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:49 pm
by jay weinstein
it was D.R's favorite boat anchor. how much extra for a downton chain ??????????????

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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:49 pm
by newtune
mk1 wrote:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/classic-mini- ... 1e77b42bf9

He reckons its a "Downton" unit because of the stamped marks in it. . . . These are the factory stamps & nothing to do with Downton at all.

i had a :lol: about this too Mark

Must be a fast engine too, it's painted red !

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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:58 pm
by chichestermini
Agreed with all above.

Isn't it a 1275 'S' however, telling by the tappet chest covers? Aren't they rare units nowadays?

Thom

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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:41 pm
by newtune
chichestermini wrote:Agreed with all above.

Isn't it a 1275 'S' however, telling by the tappet chest covers? Aren't they rare units nowadays?

Thom
the one's without are 1275\1300 gt, theirs still a few around i bought a couple this year

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:51 am
by mk1
Yup, it is a 1275 S unit, and it looks OK. It's just the Downton connection that's total cobblers.

M

Re: DOwnton Engine . . . . .Yeh Right!

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:50 pm
by jay weinstein
the blocks has had liners installed and you can see where one is damaged at the top ,someone drilled and tapped the block to modify the oil system,it's got hammer marks on parts you don't hammer on....i see lots of problems

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:57 pm
by mk1
I have seen much worse resurrected though.

M

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:58 pm
by guru_1071
jay weinstein wrote:someone drilled and tapped the block to modify the oil system

thats just been done to run a remote oil filter, my 8 port has been modified exactly the same way

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:32 pm
by 814CWE
looks like its had piston ring "pumping" at soome time too
its got 2 wear ridges in the bore :lol:

Re: DOwnton Engine . . . . .Yeh Right!

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:45 am
by jay weinstein
i'm not saying you can 't fix this stuff but for the money spent you could do better. it's not made of gold

Re: DOwnton Engine . . . . .Yeh Right!

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:22 am
by jay weinstein
mark...i've got 2 stuart arden postage stamp size badges. you want one? no cost

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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:11 pm
by Pete
jay weinstein wrote:i'm not saying you can 't fix this stuff but for the money spent you could do better. it's not made of gold
Well no but S blocks generally aren't that easy to find in decent condition let alone cranks. That may well change when the rumoured recast S blocks come out.

Some top notch shill bidding going on with that one though.

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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:56 pm
by newtune
Pete wrote:
jay weinstein wrote:i'm not saying you can 't fix this stuff but for the money spent you could do better. it's not made of gold
Well no but S blocks generally aren't that easy to find in decent condition let alone cranks. That may well change when the rumoured recast S blocks come out.

Some top notch shill bidding going on with that one though.
thats true Pete but if we are talking about the same chap that has just recast the heads they are £2700 each. blocks are going some money i thinks

James

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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:12 pm
by newtune
£ 850 wouldn't that was way over the top ! i thought it was about 500 - 600 quids worth, crank 300 block 200 and rods 100 but if you need them ?

James

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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:35 pm
by Pete
newtune wrote: thats true Pete but if we are talking about the same chap that has just recast the heads they are £2700 each. blocks are going some money i thinks
I think the Swifty race heads from the new castings are that much but not a bare casting surely. I saw the castings at Race Retro and they do look impressive, the ports on the race head were huuuuge with the outer two exhaust ports being a great big D shape. That sort of money is so far beyond most club racers though. I wouldn't have thought the bare blocks will be that much more than a grand would you think because 2nd hand blocks are only half that when you can get them plus you don't need them for App K.

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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:52 pm
by newtune
would be nice if they were around a grand ! as by the time you bought a rusty block had it dipped linered cam bearing etc your at that any way. swifty must have some money wrapped up in those heads ! drawings moulds machining testing etc

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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:41 pm
by mk1
There is a lot more work in a block than in a head.

M

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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:32 pm
by davidnutland
I hope you aren't this tough on me when I post my Downton engine for sale, its not red though!

David

and it wasn't assembled with a Downton hammer either :lol: :lol:

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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:53 pm
by mk1
its not red though!

Now that's what I call an excellent start :lol: