Original type HT leads???

999 ORX · Post by **999 ORX** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:58 pm

Hello,
Does anybody have any photos of what original HT leads were like on early mk1-3 mini's? Or possibly period type leads? 60's70's
Also, What plug caps were used etc? And was it that black and yellow bumble bee type lead or was that race spec?

Cheers, chris

cooper man · Post by **cooper man** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:37 am

Black and yellow lucas lead was mainly used on works cars, standard lead was black copper core with champion caps although they did differ from year to year as far as I know.

Post by **Toby** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:00 pm

cpr1 · Post by **cpr1** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:39 pm

on Miniworld of August 97 there is an article on John Parnell's 970 Cooper S and he has these types of wires and caps onhttp://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu11 ... es0005.jpg

and i have seen original MK2 and MK3 cars with these typehttp://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu11 ... rts026.jpg

Post by **STG95F** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:56 pm

Hi , this is a pic of my std mk2 Cooper

Thanks Ian

66S · Post by **66S** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:08 pm

I believe the caps shown on the Mk2 above are incorrect. This style ran from around '63 and ceased in early '65. The type I have attached were used '65, 66 and '67, and then replaced by the smaller plastic type (WC200). I have not fully researched the above but I don't think I'm far away.

Regards
Al

wc200_160_2.jpg

cooper man · Post by **cooper man** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:08 am

The top one is a later plastic type used on mk 3s, the lower one would be correct. The early black lead had no writing on it, this is more an 80s on thing.
The other champion cap used had a raisd spot in the middle and no insignia, again for the mk 1 era.

Post by **foxy52** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:18 am

cooper man wrote:The top one is a later plastic type used on mk 3s, the lower one would be correct. The early black lead had no writing on it, this is more an 80s on thing.
The other champion cap used had a raisd spot in the middle and no insignia, again for the mk 1 era.

...the top one is exactly the same as i have on my mk 2s.. outer white colour and black champion lettering as per the engine bay of the white car... though i think over the years they chopped and changed with white on black and black on white so to speak.. ??!!

mk1 · Post by **mk1** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:52 pm

I agree with 66S I do not believe that WCX600's were standard fitment on a Mini & the small rubber WCX200's with dark green leads were a 70's style.

These caps with plain black leads look about right to me.

999 ORX · Post by **999 ORX** » Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:30 pm

Hi, sorry I haven't replied sooner but I've been rather busy!

Thank you by the way, i was just interested in what standard plug leads were like! Sad I know!

My dads old frog eye just used to have bits of copper screwed on! Was great fun going out in that and pulling up next to people at traffic lights and watching them messing with their radios! Haha!

66S · Post by **66S** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:29 am

I've got some NOS green leads that have Ripaults and Lucas on them. The time line that seems to be evident is black (copper cored) through to '65 some time, then green, which follows through to late '67. They went back to black again then. I think the green was suppression lead (carbon) so maybe there is a change date for radio suppression somewhere.

I'm not saying this is a fact or researched, just expressing what I have found.

Regards
Al

Gray · Post by **Gray** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:14 am

The other problem with the green lead would appear to be that with a HA12 coil that has an acorn fitting you cannot use a carbon core lead as the copper needs to be splayed inside the screw in acorn.

cooper man · Post by **cooper man** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:50 am

Surly if this carbon core lead was available in 65 all the more up market cars like Jags, Astons etc would also have used it !

Personaly I cant say that I had ever seen this style of lead with the writing on until the 80s, possably late 70s. Can anyone offer some kind of proof that this was available from 1965.

miniminor · Post by **miniminor** » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:41 pm

Ive got similar styled NGK caps.
Where sell lengths of the appropriate lead so that I can make replacements?

mk1 · Post by **mk1** » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:07 am

I agree with Al's assessment stated above.

M

mpiman02 · Post by **mpiman02** » Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:55 pm

These are the leads from a 1960 MK1 850

minidean · Post by **minidean** » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:13 pm

mpiman02 wrote:These are the leads from a 1960 MK1 850

I want to put original HT lead on my 63sdl. Anyone know what these should look like???

66S · Post by **66S** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:52 am

Hi minidean,
I reckon the type you need are the "bowtie" type, shown in the second pic on the first page of this post. I am not sure about the white though, I think the word "Champion" should be filled in white and the background bowtie black.

Regards
Al

miniminor · Post by **miniminor** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:18 am

Where can you buy lengths of HT lead from to make up new ones (to keep original caps)?

Gray · Post by **Gray** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:39 am

These guy's have most options except green copper core.

http://www.gsparkplug.com/shop/plug-lea ... ables.html

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