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970 8-port

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:19 am
by Vegard
Was this ever homologated in Gp2form? We all know that they raced these even in international events, but were they ever "legal"?

Re: 970 8-port

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:39 am
by sandman
No, it was never homologated as there was no need.... In the latter part of the 60's the European championship was run according to Group 5 regulations, which stated that head in induction was completely free.... so no need for a homologation. (We should be thankful for this I guess 'cause the ability to use special "one-off" heads was the pretty much the reason the crossflow heads was developed... (i.e in small production numbers)

By the time the ETCC went back to Gr.2, the 970 was out of production and also BMC had pulled out of motorsport...

Re: 970 8-port

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:51 am
by Astro
No, only the homologation sheet of the 1275 shows the Weslake and the Arden 8 port head. But this was just up to Gr. 2. There were Gr. 5 and more free regulations for some competitions.

Best.

Re: 970 8-port

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:22 pm
by Vegard
Damn :) I just had a thought.. Oh well, 1293 8-port it is...

Re: 970 8-port

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:31 pm
by sandman
Besides you wouldnt be able to fit the Webers under the bonnet... leaving you with Amals or injection only..

Having said that... wonder if any one tried to run these heads with Fish carbs?? :)

Re: 970 8-port

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:54 pm
by Vegard
sandman wrote:Besides you wouldnt be able to fit the Webers under the bonnet... leaving you with Amals or injection only..

Having said that... wonder if any one tried to run these heads with Fish carbs?? :)
You're not correct. I now know how to do this :)

Re: 970 8-port

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:35 pm
by Astro
Hi,

both heads fits under the round standart bonnet. Not easy but you can make them fit.

Re: 970 8-port

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:51 pm
by guru_1071
Astro wrote:Hi,

both heads fits under the round standart bonnet. Not easy but you can make them fit.


might fit, but it wont do much for performance, those webers must cry petrol tears having such a small gap from the bonnet to the ram pipes & innards!

Re: 970 8-port

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:54 pm
by Astro
and the other one. (Not yet ready. Dean will make some improvements)

Cheers

Re: 970 8-port

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:55 pm
by Astro
There is power. Within the regulations.

Re: 970 8-port

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:18 pm
by pad4
If you got it - Flaunt it !!!!!!

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Let em all hang out - like a nice pair of boobs in a low cut dress........:-)


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Re: 970 8-port

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:31 am
by Astro
OK?

Re: 970 8-port

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:38 pm
by sandman
That hardly looks optimal.

How does the power vs. cost compare to a optimal 5-port head?

And what about airfilters.... ?? Nice IRB-kit you got there! (=Instant Re-Bore! :))

Re: 970 8-port

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:53 pm
by Astro
Hi,

the difference is not so much the power but the torque. If you do for example hillclimb on the continent, the torque will spare a lot of seconds and if you do hillclimb, a small grid is enough to save the engine. But you are right. On a flat circuit, there is not so much advantage with an 8-port like this.

Cheers.

Re: 970 8-port

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:56 pm
by steady eddie
Astro wrote:Hi,

the difference is not so much the power but the torque. If you do for example hillclimb on the continent, the torque will spare a lot of seconds and if you do hillclimb, a small grid is enough to save the engine. But you are right. On a flat circuit, there is not so much advantage with an 8-port like this.

Cheers.
So what would the difference be with four amals which fit under the STD bonnet no problem, has any one any experience?

Regards

Steady Eddie

Re: 970 8-port

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:09 pm
by Astro
The Amal's are 8mm smaller and more difficult to handle. They are too small to work together with a 1400. About the power Nick Swift will know more.