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Brake pipe clearance under radiator
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:58 pm
by AndyPen
Hi all, just making sure I've left enough room for the radiator here (and space to remove the brake pipe should I need to at some point), but don't have a rad to hand to fix and check at the moment - so before I go and make another pipe, and just by eye, does this look OK or should I play safe and lower it?
I did it this high as I've found it helps spanner access from the side hole in the inner wing.
Cheers folks.
inside engine bay view of pipe.jpeg
lower side view.jpeg
Re: Brake pipe clearance under radiator
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:45 pm
by 360gts
Could be close Andy, although, the bottom of the rad does tuck up just where the pipe makes the bend.
Adding a picture of my original 65 S....just lifted the engine out a few weeks ago. Pipe looks like it's the original one.
Hope this helps.
Re: Brake pipe clearance under radiator
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:53 pm
by Polarsilver
Andy , i make the Brake Pipe Bend just above the Hex Fitting so it does not have much room to slide "up" the pipe when its loose .. i make that pipe bend quite tight .. purpose to clear the Rad but also to allow some access to get to the two Rad Bracket securing Bolts that are a sod to get access to.. would be good to have an OE pipe photo to explain what BMC did?
Re: Brake pipe clearance under radiator
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:57 pm
by AndyPen
Thanks both, I guess I was trying to avoid making another pipe, but knew deep down I should eh?
Rad brackets had not come into equation, so a very good point there too.
Re: Brake pipe clearance under radiator
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:37 am
by mini_surfari
You could probably cut the flair off that one and shorten it and then give the bend a tweak rather than start again.
I think the pipe should also run along the underside of that lip if I remember correctly?
Re: Brake pipe clearance under radiator
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:50 am
by AndyPen
mini_surfari wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:37 am
You could probably cut the flair off that one and shorten it and then give the bend a tweak rather than start again.
I think the pipe should also run along the underside of that lip if I remember correctly?
You are right it does drop down, hence the gaps at the corner, and then held by two clips. I wonder why it goes under?
I'll give that a go but it will need pulling down, as I deliberately didn't shape it like Dermot's original to keep the pipe lower and out of the way more. I have an original here that matches Dermot's shape, but thought I was being clever - he he..
Will the pipe have enough straight left to clamp on I wonder? Whatever, it will fun trying
I have also been looking at getting a spanner in the for the lower nut and have a strong drop down ring spanner I bought off ebay and it will fit perfectly once I've made a cut to let it pass over the pipe.
Re: Brake pipe clearance under radiator
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 9:02 am
by Rubber Sprung
It goes under the lip to stop the gearbox damaging it during an engine change .
Re: Brake pipe clearance under radiator
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:19 am
by AndyPen
Rubber Sprung wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 9:02 am
It goes under the lip to stop the gearbox damaging it during an engine change .
Ahhhh, yes, we live and learn, thanks for that
Re: Brake pipe clearance under radiator
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:22 pm
by Smiffy
Why not just bolt the engine mount to the frame and stick the rad bracket on then you can see for yourself...................
Re: Brake pipe clearance under radiator
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:48 pm
by AndyPen
Smiffy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:22 pm
Why not just bolt the engine mount to the frame and stick the rad bracket on then you can see for yourself...................
The rad and all those bits aren't here at the moment Smiffy, annoyingly I can't get them for a week or two as there is an access problem in a place I store stuff.
Re: Brake pipe clearance under radiator
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 9:52 pm
by Smiffy
You only said you didn't have the rad to hand.......
Re: Brake pipe clearance under radiator
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:00 pm
by AndyPen
360gts wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:45 pm
Could be close Andy, although, the bottom of the rad does tuck up just where the pipe makes the bend.
Adding a picture of my original 65 S....just lifted the engine out a few weeks ago. Pipe looks like it's the original one.
Hope this helps.
Just a quick follow up and to confirm that this is the standard shape. I have been doing some experiments and as mentioned by Polar the lower the better seems to be the solution. The one at the top is standard and the one at the bottom the version I'll use
The rusty pic is from my unmolested 64.
brake pipe experiments.jpeg
peu brake pipe copy.jpeg