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Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:57 pm
by Exminiman
Have a reverse gear lock fitted similar to the MS one
https://www.minispares.com/product/Clas ... o%20search
Question is, any bright ideas on how to also fit a rubber gaiter or similar, as you need access to the lock to unlock it……
I was thinking of making an aluminium cover at remote level and doing away with the rubber gaiter
But all other cars look to still be using the rubber gaiter….some how.
Cheers in advance
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:59 pm
by Toby
The gaiter is just cut open on the side to operate the lever. It kind of defies the purpose of the gaiter but that’s how it’s done
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:10 pm
by Exminiman
Thanks, that’s what I have, but I want to use the gaiter to isolate the inside from the outside, Maybe a hinged gaiter to do the trick….
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:24 pm
by AndyPen
We used a cut gator for a while but it wore badly and we were worried it might jam something eventually - this was in the rally car so we took the rubber off.
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:17 am
by dazibee
KAD sell a reverse gear inhibitor which might prevent the need for fitting something in the car and cutting the gaiter. Works well on my car
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:21 am
by Exminiman
Thanks will have a look at their website
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 4:16 pm
by YMJ
When I first started racing in the early 90s I bought one of these MS ones. For "spirited driving" they are useless.
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 4:47 pm
by imack
YMJ wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 4:16 pm
When I first started racing in the early 90s I bought one of these MS ones. For "spirited driving" they are useless.
Why are they useless?
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:02 pm
by dazibee
I would imagine sat in the driver's seat harness on it would be difficult to reach down and move the reverse lock out the way
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:51 am
by MiNiKiN
Exminiman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:57 pm
Have a reverse gear lock fitted similar to the MS one
https://www.minispares.com/product/Clas ... o%20search
Question is, any bright ideas on how to also fit a rubber gaiter or similar, as you need access to the lock to unlock it……
I was thinking of making an aluminium cover at remote level and doing away with the rubber gaiter
But all other cars look to still be using the rubber gaiter….some how.
Cheers in advance
Fit a bicycle gear shifter to the gear stick, and operate the reverse lock by bowden cable. Such you can keep the rubber gaiter.
49-30.jpg
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:12 pm
by Nick W
For the racing car look you can just cut the gaiter down level with the round housing, so still seals the car.
I find a reverse gear lock is a must for hillclimbing, helps get into 3rd without going in to the reverse gate.
Mini spares one is OK, but seen hand made ones that are more robust.
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:12 am
by Exminiman
Thanks, this is sort where I started, my reverse lock is very similar to yours as well. When I looked on the internet every other competition car had a full gaiter and I wondered if I was missing something.
Looks like others with full gaiter must be using another method for reverse locks, either KADs stronger detent one or this one
http://mk1-forum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=794 where you can keep the full gaiter.
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:29 pm
by BAD942B
MiNiKiN wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:51 am
Exminiman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:57 pm
Have a reverse gear lock fitted similar to the MS one
https://www.minispares.com/product/Clas ... o%20search
Question is, any bright ideas on how to also fit a rubber gaiter or similar, as you need access to the lock to unlock it……
I was thinking of making an aluminium cover at remote level and doing away with the rubber gaiter
But all other cars look to still be using the rubber gaiter….some how.
Cheers in advance
Fit a bicycle gear shifter to the gear stick, and operate the reverse lock by bowden cable. Such you can keep the rubber gaiter.
49-30.jpg
like some more info on this please
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 11:42 am
by imack
I'm still using the reverse gear lock that I made nearly 40 years ago. When the car was used daily and had full interior trim I had the gaiter fitted with a slot cut in it for the lock lever.
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 11:59 am
by Nick W
Here is a clearer image of mine
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:52 am
by MiNiKiN
BAD942B wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:29 pm
MiNiKiN wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:51 am
Exminiman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:57 pm
Have a reverse gear lock fitted similar to the MS one
https://www.minispares.com/product/Clas ... o%20search
Question is, any bright ideas on how to also fit a rubber gaiter or similar, as you need access to the lock to unlock it……
I was thinking of making an aluminium cover at remote level and doing away with the rubber gaiter
But all other cars look to still be using the rubber gaiter….some how.
Cheers in advance
Fit a bicycle gear shifter to the gear stick, and operate the reverse lock by bowden cable. Such you can keep the rubber gaiter.
49-30.jpg
like some more info on this please
I "imagineered" something like this: hope that explains roughly what I woul make. The bike brake could possibly be replaced with a more vintage lever of a classic bike (choke or ignition adjuster) from an auto-jumble.
MiNiKiN_solutions_#1.jpg
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:52 am
by MiNiKiN
BAD942B wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:29 pm
MiNiKiN wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:51 am
Exminiman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:57 pm
Have a reverse gear lock fitted similar to the MS one
https://www.minispares.com/product/Clas ... o%20search
Question is, any bright ideas on how to also fit a rubber gaiter or similar, as you need access to the lock to unlock it……
I was thinking of making an aluminium cover at remote level and doing away with the rubber gaiter
But all other cars look to still be using the rubber gaiter….some how.
Cheers in advance
Fit a bicycle gear shifter to the gear stick, and operate the reverse lock by bowden cable. Such you can keep the rubber gaiter.
49-30.jpg
like some more info on this please
I "imagineered" something like this: hope that explains roughly what I woul make. The bike brake could possibly be replaced with a more vintage lever of a classic bike (choke or ignition adjuster) from an auto-jumble.
MiNiKiN_solutions_#1.jpg
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:59 am
by Exminiman
This might help?, it’s an old thread but looks like someone on here designed drew and photographed something similar.
Whether they are still going, not sure, but the photo is still accessible
https://mk1-forum.net/viewtopic.php?p=5129#p5129
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:47 am
by MiNiKiN
Mike wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:06 am
Designed by me and originally fitted to our FIA car prepared by Tony Pattison.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mike_youles/5031723957/
If you run a KAD quickshift, we also manufacture a modification that does away with the original tension spring and plastic "C" washer.
It comprises of a delrin lower cup which the lever ball sits in, sandwiched by the KAD aluminium housing which is then installed upside down. Shims are inserted to provide perfect movement or adjustment.
Has been faultless in operation all season. We fitted one to Ron Maydon's car when we worked on it prior to his Spa foray and he said it was a vast improvement.
Very nice solution, I too wonder if it is stil available. Mike hast been last seen here in 2013
Re: Reverse gear lock and gaiter ..?
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:04 pm
by Exminiman
Go one post up, and they were made by, might still be going ?
Tony Pattinson
TP Race Prep
131a Church Road
Emneth
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01945 463794 or mobile 07889 989959