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Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:01 pm
by wantafaster1
Colin McDowell and Geraldine McBride got the category 1 win with the mini
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Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:24 pm
by hanlminiman
Any images of Les Alfrey?
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:30 pm
by wantafaster1
No sorry, I was on service duties with this carand didn't get much chance for pics.
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 8:43 pm
by BAD942B
Do you have an entry list handy ?
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:39 pm
by wantafaster1
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I'm not sure how I've got them in the wrong order but that's the entry
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:30 pm
by Pete
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:33 pm
by BAD942B
dominated by Hot rod Escorts !, few of which would pass any FIA App K inspection
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:07 am
by wantafaster1
BAD942B wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:33 pm
dominated by Hot rod Escorts !, few of which would pass any FIA App K inspection
There are some FIA cars in the historic, there's no requirement that they have to be FIA logbooked. I've never really looked into it but I asked someone who builds them last year what the difference is, and he said windows and fibreglass panels.
The modifieds are a different ball game though. It's escort overload, there's no shortage of money about, put it that way.
If you go back 15 years the entry has completely changed, there were loads of minis, imps, Porsches, cortinas, some MG and Triumphs.
As far as I understand it there's a limit of 150 cars, historic including post Historic gets priority entry
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:45 am
by Pete
The recent Roger Albert Clark was totally dominated by Escorts aswell, not one Mini.
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:54 pm
by wantafaster1
Pete wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:45 am
The recent Roger Albert Clark was totally dominated by Escorts aswell, not one Mini.
We are sort of wondering could a mini do the RAC.
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:31 pm
by BAD942B
wantafaster1 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:07 am
BAD942B wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:33 pm
dominated by Hot rod Escorts !, few of which would pass any FIA App K inspection
There are some FIA cars in the historic, there's no requirement that they have to be FIA logbooked. I've never really looked into it but I asked someone who builds them last year what the difference is, and he said windows and fibreglass panels.
The modifieds are a different ball game though. It's escort overload, there's no shortage of money about, put it that way.
If you go back 15 years the entry has completely changed, there were loads of minis, imps, Porsches, cortinas, some MG and Triumphs.
As far as I understand it there's a limit of 150 cars, historic including post Historic gets priority entry
I was living in Ireland in 98/99, I went to the Killarney Historic both years, a Proper App K Porsche 911 won one of those years, an Elan did really well & a look alike Works MGB, Escorts have plenty of events they can ruin, let the drivers organise their own event
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:42 pm
by hanlminiman
wantafaster1 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:54 pm
Pete wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:45 am
The recent Roger Albert Clark was totally dominated by Escorts aswell, not one Mini.
We are sort of wondering could a mini do the RAC.
Minis on 10" or 12" wheels - I doubt it through the Welsh and Kielder forest stages, especially if used twice.
Looking at the regs for the 2023 Le Jog event, tyres were required to have the winter symbol. Are there any 10" or 12" winter tyres available?
Back to the Roger Albert Clark and looking at the Facebook image of an Anglia on a stage just SE of Kielder village the surface looked like Belgian pave or the Roman wall foundations.
13" wheels are a different matter as I noticed most of the 13" wheel cars were using Pirelli tyres.
Weren't the Swiftune Clubman race cars allowed to run 13" wheels and rubber as no 12" racing tyres are available.
If my memory serves me correctly in 1968 the Ford Escorts took over from the Mini as the Escorts had higher ground clearance and better on the loose stages.
I must admit that I do think the HRCR Rally Mini Cup competition series for rally Minis is very good but does need more competitors.
Back to Killarney. Has any one seen any images of Les Alfrey in his Mini?
Cliff
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:32 pm
by 251 ENG
But the star of the recent Roger Albert Clark rally was not an escort.
It was an amazing sounding Lancia
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:21 pm
by wantafaster1
251 ENG wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:32 pm
But the star of the recent Roger Albert Clark rally was not an escort.
It was an amazing sounding Lancia
You're not wrong there!! How much effort must have gone into keeping that going!
However, plenty of enthusiasm shown supporting a different sort of product from special tuning, the TR7 V8. Man I really wanted that to get a good result.
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:31 pm
by Pete
That Lancia sounded fantastic.
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:08 pm
by java gt
There was a good selection of historics outside of the usual blue oval brigade,Talbot,Peugeot,Opel,Volvo,Vauxhall,Porsche,BMWs and a few nice Minis were among the field.The modified is dominated by high cost Escorts of which there seems to be no end to the money being spent on them.Great weekend for spectators though.The late Craig Breen did 00 a few years back in a Metro 6R4,there was some noise off that as he drove through the valleys,great video on Youtube of it
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:48 pm
by Brynmor
wantafaster1 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:21 pm
251 ENG wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:32 pm
But the star of the recent Roger Albert Clark rally was not an escort.
It was an amazing sounding Lancia
You're not wrong there!! How much effort must have gone into keeping that going!
However, plenty of enthusiasm shown supporting a different sort of product from special tuning, the TR7 V8. Man I really wanted that to get a good result.
The Stratos has had £2million worth of development in last few years…there was supposed to be a Mini on the RAC but it withdrew sadly. I wouldn’t take one near it, my 5th and it was insanely rough.
Missed doing Killarney this year, kind of Geraldine to keep my seat warm
Re: Killarney historic 2023
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:27 pm
by wantafaster1
Brynmor wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:48 pm
wantafaster1 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:21 pm
251 ENG wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:32 pm
But the star of the recent Roger Albert Clark rally was not an escort.
It was an amazing sounding Lancia
You're not wrong there!! How much effort must have gone into keeping that going!
However, plenty of enthusiasm shown supporting a different sort of product from special tuning, the TR7 V8. Man I really wanted that to get a good result.
The Stratos has had £2million worth of development in last few years…there was supposed to be a Mini on the RAC but it withdrew sadly. I wouldn’t take one near it, my 5th and it was insanely rough.
Missed doing Killarney this year, kind of Geraldine to keep my seat warm
I think that's 6 wins for Colin possibly 7 for Geraldine?