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Electric conversion

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 10:51 am
by goff
Electric package for classic mini , taken from our local paper today.

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 12:40 pm
by mk1
Interesting it is "entirely incorporated in the front frame". Get's round any issues with pesky holes, I assume.
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Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 12:47 pm
by mab01uk
Their website does not appear to list the Mini conversion kit yet:-
https://www.electrogenic.co.uk/conversion-kits

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 1:51 pm
by Bitsilly
Those guys are on the group trying to liaise with the “government “.
And bear in mind my conversation was very powerful with a mega range.
Finally, I could have done it without drilling holes, as there is the rotisserie hole which is big enough for any cable. I still don’t know what hole (s) they were talking about because the information was deemed not personal so I had no right to see it.
The information only flows one way, and so until something changes I won’t be doing another!

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 1:56 pm
by mk1
I still don’t know what hole (s) they were talking about because the information was deemed not personal.

If the consequences weren't so serious, that would be very, very funny :D

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 2:56 pm
by snoopy64
Does make you wonder about all those holes drilled for lpg conversions on literally any car with a Rover V8 in it! Although in the case of the TRs there were probably plenty to chose from :lol:

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 4:35 pm
by BAD942B
Why, most classics are exempt & for what mileage people do it will make little difference moving pollution from individual exhausts to massive areas of pollution, even wind farms as the generators only last so lon before they need replacement.

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 9:33 pm
by timmy201
Here’s some other details from their Instagram

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 9:47 pm
by tweedy998
Anyone else who can't take these renderings seriously.

Not my cup of tea at all I'm afraid. No disrespect intended to the chap on here who tried to make an electric Mk1, but I just can't get on board with this rush for electrification especially when it comes to classics, it's unnecessary in my view.

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 10:43 pm
by 111Robin
Just another bandwagon that people are jumping onto. It was a novel idea years ago, now I'm tired of the obsession to electrify classic cars. It's like ripping the guts out of an Omega watch and replacing it with a Chinese movement just because you can. It'll still tell the time and look the same but a great item has been ruined. Why not put the same effort into creating (relatively) cheap EVs for the masses by modifying modern ICE cars that will eventually be outlawed and scrapped ?. This would seem far more relevant to me.

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 10:01 am
by Andrew1967
I’d have to agree …

I can understand the technical achievements of converting a classic but to me as just said above, it’s the sound (for instance) a classic Mini makes that does it for me. Starting up HOY last weekend and listening to the exhaust note is just music to my ears and as for the sound of the straight cut gearboxes at Blyton …

I was at a mates garage and he had an electric Porsche in and an AMG Merc SLK in. He moved the Porsche .. no noise apart from tyre noise (why it was in for a new tyre .. £360 a corner when he can get one ?!) . Moved the SLK and my comment was ‘THAT’S what a car should sound like !) .

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 10:41 am
by Bitsilly
My sole reason was to make it as fast as possible as a sleeper.
It would have been able to embarrass virtually anything on the road at least for a while!
Bear in mind that the watch guts of my car was a shot 850, so I prefer the analogy of ripping the guts out of a grand father clock and replacing it with cocaine and dynamite.

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 10:42 am
by Bitsilly
My run around is an AMG SLK.

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 11:29 am
by Andrew1967
Bitsilly wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 10:41 am My sole reason was to make it as fast as possible as a sleeper.
It would have been able to embarrass virtually anything on the road at least for a while!
Bear in mind that the watch guts of my car was a shot 850, so I prefer the analogy of ripping the guts out of a grand father clock and replacing it with cocaine and dynamite.
That would have been brilliant to see Bitsilly, shame on DVLA for destroying that !

A bit like the Elise powered Mini that’s always at Blyton. Lols like a bog standard Mini , a great sleeper.

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 12:35 pm
by Peter Laidler
Not perhaps the place to say this, after the total flak and stick that we - and I - have given the DVLA.

But heard a few weeks ago of a new VW beetle buyer in the late 70's had all the docs and paperwork for the car, up to the day he sold it some years later after giving it to his daughter. He saw that the car was still registered MOT etc and asked the DVLA to send on the docs to the new owner - without divulging names etc. Enclosed a large stamped envelope and the person with the heart and brains at DVLA did just that and sent the docs to the current keeper.

Personally, I''d have just asked my local police station to do the same......

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 12:57 pm
by Bitsilly
It is nice to know some humans still work there, it should be encouraged.
Personally I’m going to take up a hobby that attracts less governmental attention, like fly tipping, breaking and entering, and of course, building pot holes😇

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 3:52 pm
by gazza82
Minisprinter wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 9:43 am Got to agree with others on here, I don't understand why you would want to do it, you drop 21K on a conversion then have a car that at the best will get you 80 miles and no doubt shorter if you use the lights and heater ( presuming it has a heater) then you have to wait for it to charge up. EV cars have a place in this world but in my opinion not in the classic car one, surely one of the things about classic cars is the sound of the engine, driving about in a EV classic sounding like a washing machine just isn't for me, but I doubt I'm the target demographic.

MS
Watch the Guy Martin programme in All4 if you want to see the "real" truth about EVs ... enlightening .. ;)

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:33 am
by Pete
Watched a bit from a podcast with Moggy from Vintage Voltage yesterday. He was discussing what the DVLA guidelines on conversion are and stated that when he’s asked for clarification on permitted modifications to chassis or monocoque that DVLA informed him that even bolting a roll cage into your car should require an IVA and a Q plate!

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:24 pm
by mab01uk
Pete wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:33 am Watched a bit from a podcast with Moggy from Vintage Voltage yesterday. He was discussing what the DVLA guidelines on conversion are and stated that when he’s asked for clarification on permitted modifications to chassis or monocoque that DVLA informed him that even bolting a roll cage into your car should require an IVA and a Q plate!
Just had a listen Pete. The Moggy Vintage Voltage podcast also says as an example the DVLA include things like fitting seat belts into a classic car that did not originally have any, by drilling holes and fitting or welding spreader plates requires an IVA and a Q plate. He says the reason EV conversions get picked up by the DVLA is because when changing the V5 from petrol to electric (although DVLA tax classification stays as petrol) it triggers an inspection, whereupon any additional welding or drilled holes in the original monocoque gets picked up. He goes on to say the only reason every rally or road car with a weld in or bolted in roll cage is not on a Q plate is because no change request has ever been made to the V5 logbook which is what would trigger a DVLA inspection...

IVA & Q Plates is discussed when 31 minutes of the 1h 12min podcast linked below remains. You can fast forward to that point if required.

Converting Classic Cars to EV - Is It Worth the Hate? | Ep 42 | Drive Torque Podcast:-
https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/c ... 0677893801

Re: Electric conversion

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:43 pm
by MiNiKiN
Pete wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:33 am Watched a bit from a podcast with Moggy from Vintage Voltage yesterday. He was discussing what the DVLA guidelines on conversion are and stated that when he’s asked for clarification on permitted modifications to chassis or monocoque that DVLA informed him that even bolting a roll cage into your car should require an IVA and a Q plate!
I always thought our very own Austrian DVLA equivalent are a wunsch of bankers. But no, they are just incooperative, whereas the DVLA seems to have completely lost their marbles. DVLA seemingly changed from Paulus to Saulus, to adapt a biblical analogy.