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foundry grade

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:51 pm
by baptiste
can anyone tell me what grade-shade of iron is used for the a series?
for the cylinder head and for the block

regards
baptiste

Re: foundry grade

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:21 am
by Exminiman
Sorry, dont know the answer, but interested to know why ?

Re: foundry grade

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 5:43 am
by winabbey
Does this help?

FCY-1 Cast Iron Cylinder Blocks p F3.jpg

Re: foundry grade

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:56 am
by Exminiman
Gob smacked, only on here would someone know this……

Re: foundry grade

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:30 am
by Peter Laidler
Same here exminiman! But looking at the spec from an engineering but non-metallurgists eye, it is so broad that you could safely say that any mid range grey cast iron would suffice.

Re: foundry grade

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 1:55 am
by Joel Welsh 4769VU
As a hobbyist knifesmith... and car guy.

That's simply an amazing piece of historical tidbit.
:shock:

Re: foundry grade

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:00 am
by baptiste
Exminiman wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:21 am Sorry, dont know the answer, but interested to know why ?
no problem.
The aim would be to be able to carry out repairs and manufacture some parts.

Re: foundry grade

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 11:43 am
by Toby
If a block hasn't been skimmed yet the top of it will have a little dimond shape on it with a number in it. The number indicates the grade of the casting, as according to BMC. The pistons were available to suit the blocks and also have the grade indication on them. The most common is 3

Re: foundry grade

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 12:27 pm
by Exminiman
Toby wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 11:43 am If a block hasn't been skimmed yet the top of it will have a little dimond shape on it with a number in it. The number indicates the grade of the casting, as according to BMC. The pistons were available to suit the blocks and also have the grade indication on them. The most common is 3
Really ....seen the diamond shape had no idea there was a tie in with the pistons.

So was this diamond in relation to accuracy of the machining, quality of casting or something else ....just trying to understand why it would matter.

Re: foundry grade

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 12:33 pm
by Toby
From what I understand it would be an indication of the casting quality.

Re: foundry grade

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 1:11 pm
by 251 ENG
The numbers in the diamonds on the the top of the block are a size grade for the bores .
Basically they couldn’t make all the bores and pistons the same size , so they were graded and selectively assembled.
The piston grade is normally stamped on to of pistons on a BMC part .
They did the same thing with A+ crank main housings, they had colour coded bearings

Re: foundry grade

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 6:31 pm
by richardACS
Wonderful knowledge...

Re: foundry grade

Posted: Fri May 05, 2023 9:28 pm
by Exminiman
So, almost a form of blueprinting, tolerance matching, whatever…..?

Suppose its logical as they wouldn’t be measuring pistons and boring to suit…it would be matching a line of pre-bored blocks to stock pistons……

Fascinating insight, thanks for sharing

Re: foundry grade

Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 5:58 am
by timmy201
Examples of the stamps