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Works Dynamo
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:41 pm
by Nick W
So the early works cars used an up rated dynamo with an RB40 control box, I can see the case is bigger than a mini C40, 4" case. But was it a C42 or a C45 4.5" case?
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:12 am
by Nick W
This is what's listed on EJBs build sheet
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:11 pm
by NZmember
I see you can only get 28 amps by making the coils bigger or longer. The EJB listing as a C40 doesn't fit what is in the image.
Where are the works or electrical expert comments ....
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:34 am
by 251 ENG
This is a 22746 C40R
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:10 am
by Nick W
Thanks for the images Simon, that is one very rare part. All the dynamo specialists I've spoke to have never heard or seen a C40 R.
You would have thought it was adapted from some other Vehicle in the Bmc range. If anyone knows what a 22746D was used in ?.
Or I'm going to have to build a replica, I found that a C40L has a 28amp out put, but unsure of its dimensions.
The C40R in the above images has a band round it, a bit like a starter motor, what would this be for?
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:22 am
by AustinSevenMkII68
My mate Jeroen made one by shortening and welding up a larger Jaguar one. He also squeezed a modern Denso alternator in, unvisible from the outside:
If you're on facebook, check this album
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?van ... =-UC%2CP-R:
He spend 6 weeks to do the complete wiring on this CRX89B replica (1964 RAC version).
Cheers,
Ronald
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:39 am
by Nick W
Yes I've seen this..very impressive, looks very authentic from the out side.
I may do something similar with the case, but no modern internals
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:50 pm
by Nick W
NZmember wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:11 pm
I see you can only get 28 amps by making the coils bigger or longer. The EJB listing as a C40 doesn't fit what is in the image.
Where are the works or electrical expert comments ....
that's exactly what I thought, C40=22 amps. That's why I assumed it must have used a bigger case .
Seeing as it was a 4" case used ..I think the fact it used bearings front and rear and an RB 340 control box, it could take the revs more meaning more Amps generated?
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:08 pm
by Nick W
May have been from a lotus climax engine. The band was for changing the brushes. I think I might have found one.
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:22 pm
by 251 ENG
I was told there was one used on early lotus engines that was similar. That was from a reconditioning specialist, he said he could replicate something similar for about £350 and that was about 10 years ago .
The ends are cast iron and have special heavy duty bearings I believe.
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:03 pm
by Nick W
251 ENG wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:22 pm
I was told there was one used on early lotus engines that was similar. That was from a reconditioning specialist, he said he could replicate something similar for about £350 and that was about 10 years ago .
The ends are cast iron and have special heavy duty bearings I believe.
Sounds like this one Jim can make from classic&vintage dynamos
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:02 pm
by trevorhp
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:33 pm
by Peter Laidler
Seems like Trevor and Dynalite have the answer if you want yours to look the same. If it's purely aesthetics, why go to the hassle of converting?
I stuck modern guts into mt crap 11(?)AC alternator to make it sort of look original.
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:12 pm
by Polarsilver
Have fitted Dynalite Alternators on two cars & they have been no issue at all ..just needed small modification when fitting to make sure Belt Alignment was correct as one unit came with a different thickness front plate to water pump .. i had to exchange in the old dynamos..one was in bits but they just wanted the used outer case & end plates... would buy again.
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:17 pm
by NZmember
Is that still a 4" case that Jim uses?
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:21 pm
by trevorhp
It's exchange so I guess it must be
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:34 pm
by Nick W
Jim told me it's an old C39 case with recast end plates. No exchange needed on this particular one.
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:45 pm
by trevorhp
Copy that
It's good to know
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:10 pm
by cpr1
Re: Works Dynamo
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:15 pm
by cpr1
Nick W wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:03 pm
251 ENG wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:22 pm
I was told there was one used on early lotus engines that was similar. That was from a reconditioning specialist, he said he could replicate something similar for about £350 and that was about 10 years ago .
The ends are cast iron and have special heavy duty bearings I believe.
Sounds like this one Jim can make from classic&vintage dynamos
I guess this one takes some kind of pump/exhauster at the rear.