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Road wheel colours
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:55 pm
by gs.davies
I dropped a set of wheels off at the blasters today, planning on having a go at painting them myself.
My car came with two spares, one was a crossply on an old english white rim like the rest, the other had a radial but the rim was more of a dark brown or maroon colour, difficult to tell under the rust and dirt on it.
Were there ever maroon/brown wheels, and if so, were these generally assigned to the spare? What shade should that maroon/brown be?
Re: Road wheel colours
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:57 pm
by Peter Laidler
I seem to remember that spare wheels from BMC as opposed to the spare wheel in your car came in that maroon/brown primer. It was the same sort of colour as the spare panels. Maybe someone bought a new spare but didn't bother to paint it. But I could be wrong
Re: Road wheel colours
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:19 pm
by jay weinstein
Peter is correct
Re: Road wheel colours
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:26 pm
by gs.davies
Ah right - is Maroon B a close match?
Re: Road wheel colours
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:47 pm
by mk1
No, it's miles off. It's more a chocolate brown. Some time ago there was a thread about the correct colour to paint things and the spare wheel brown was mentioned in there.
Re: Road wheel colours
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:00 pm
by mk1
Re: Road wheel colours
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:29 pm
by Peter Laidler
Thanks for resurrecting that thread Mk1. Very interesting to re-read
Re: Road wheel colours
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:46 pm
by gs.davies
As ever the finest information is to be found on these pages.
Interesting that the wheels aren’t actually OEW as I’d thought...
Re: Road wheel colours
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:31 am
by winabbey
The LP883 Cooper S wheels fitted to cars built here in Australia, and I assume in the UK and elsewhere, were primed all over in a red/brown colour then painted Silver Birch or Silver Ash on the visible outside area only. I had both the primer and silver colour matched by an auto paint supplier from an original wheel and supplied in acrylic pressure pack cans for easy application.
Wheel restoration 5.jpg
Wheel restoration 10.jpg
The BMC engineering drawing for the wheel (part 21A1286) details the area to be painted silver, which is basically the outer face and extending over the lip of the wheel. Clearly BMC were not one to waste expensive top coat paint on areas hidden from view.
21A1286 Road Wheel Complete Cooper S painting subset wm.jpg
Re: Road wheel colours
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:18 am
by janerick3
Upon looking at the drawing, I noticed Issue No. 3 deletes the manufacturer's name from the drawing and that the "Suppliers Part Number" box in the lower left corner is blank.
Did BMC drop Dunlop as a supplier, did Dunlop exit the wheel business, or did something else happen during Mk 2 production? Are later 4 1/2J x 10 wheels marked with the Dunlop logo and the LP883 part number?
Re: Road wheel colours
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:15 am
by andy1071
It is/was not unusual to have more than 1 source for a part; so that is probably why is was removed, or a new supplier started supplying wheels... .
Of note also, is that the painting instructions were added on, what looks like 5 August 1968..
Does that mean that:
a) earlier wheels were finish-painted all-over, or
b) if a new supplier was added, they suggested the cost-saving, or
c) the drawing was just updated to reflect what was actually supplied..?
Re: Road wheel colours
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:44 am
by Peter Laidler
Mmmmmmmm, did Rubery Owen supply wheels too?
Re: Road wheel colours
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:23 pm
by gs.davies
Peter Laidler wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:44 am
Mmmmmmmm, did Rubery Owen supply wheels too?
Yep. I've quite a number of RO stamped 10 inch wheels here - three of them I took for blasting yesterday have revealed the stamps.