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ORX 77F

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:09 pm
by mk1
by worksminis » 21 Mar 2017, 11:25

“Simply the best”?

Monte Carlo Rally January 68. Makinen/ Easter. Group2. Severe overheating (loose crank pulley). Started final section but immediately retired.

Rally of the Flowers February 68. Aaltonen/Liddon. Group2.

Then sold to “J. Grundy” (G. Grundy?) according to Browning.
Price, meanwhile, wrote that Makinen last drove for Abingdon on the Acropolis Rally in May but then lists in the Appendix a 2 car entry for the 1000 Lakes in August. Robson in his much later book takes delight in spelling out these errors/omissions by 2 “eminent historians”.
What is particularly amazing about this is that Browning is featured doing a “piece to camera” in Jyvaskyla before the start of the 1000 Lakes in the Castrol film “The Flying Finns”. In this he states that Makinen had just told him that his car was the best that Abingdon had ever prepared for him.
In the Appendix of his book (which conflicts with his narrative) Price lists:

Rally of the 1000 Lakes August 68. Makinen/Keskitalo, ORX77F.
He also lists ORX777F as driven by Lusenius but the crew was actually Ytterbring/Persson. Makinen was known to have always demanded a dry car for the 1000 Lakes. This may not have suited BMC marketing but it was FIA legal up to the end of 1965. After 1.1.66. under the new Appendix J it was not. (the S was only homologated as hydrolastic until a dry “option” was homologated again on 1.4.70.). There is circumstantial evidence to suggest Makinen's 66 and 67 1000 Lakes cars were also dry. Was ORX77F on the 68 1000 Lakes dry? Is that why, with its splits and 648 cam in Group 2, it was “the best ever”? On Monte Carlo and the equally regulation obsessed Flowers, ORX77F was surely fully-legal hydrolastic. In Finland with Makinen on his last Mini drive, would anyone have dared challenge it?
What was the suspension when it was eventually sold to Geoff Grundy?

Grundy used the car on several Motoring News Championship rallies and a record of these will follow, courtesy of Peter Robinson's “Memory Lanes” book.

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:10 pm
by mk1
Postby davidscothorn » 29 May 2017, 16:36

DVLA MORRIS 1275 DOR 1/68 TAX 12/77 MOT NO DETAILS

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:10 pm
by mk1
by worksminis » 30 Apr 2017, 20:59

Not all MN records of Grundy in an S over the relevant period confirm it was ORX77F (but it probably was) and where there is no confirmation in the official entry list or results a question mark is inserted.
69
Welsh Marches Mar DNS ?
Vales Apr
Nutcracker Apr ?
Bolton Aug ?
Cilwendeg Sep
Cambrian Sep ?
Illuminations Oct ?
Plains Oct
Shenstone Nov
Targa Rusticana Dec
70
Bristowe Feb ?
Seven Dales February
Welsh Marches Mar
Vales Apr
Nutcracker Apr ?
Dubonnet May ?
By Cilwendeg Sep onwards Grundy is entered in OBL48F

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:10 pm
by mk1
y worksminis » 21 Apr 2017, 16:40

Thanks Brian. I will be adding data on use in MN rallies later (my priority effort is going to new threads for other numbers) but I don't have data on where this one is now (if anywhere!). Hopefully someone will post to enlighten us.

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:10 pm
by mk1
by Brian » 21 Apr 2017, 15:19

Great post, really interesting thanks for posting. It does show how much incorrect information is flying around does it not? Btw where is the car now? Cheers. Brian

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:41 pm
by tintoptom
Was owned by the late Paul lips I believe. Can anyone confirm?

Paul passed away a few years ago now. Not sure where the car is now.

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:48 pm
by mk1
Images

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:53 pm
by Costafortune
Last V5 issued February 5th 2019.

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:25 pm
by Dearg1275
It resides, awaiting attention, in Halesowen. There is the restoration of a Morgen apparently blocking progress. Nothing as far as I know has happened to it in the last ten years.

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Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:50 pm
by Pete
Geoff Grundy, who also owned OBL 48F...

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:58 am
by landygrundy321
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Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:13 am
by landygrundy321
Dad in ORX77F

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:51 pm
by spoon.450
Great photos and history. Thanks for posting.

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:34 am
by landygrundy321
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Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:19 pm
by spoon.450
Advertised for sale in this month’s Cooperworld as an unfinished project. Looks very good.

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:58 pm
by spoon.450
Has it sold recently ?

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:56 pm
by spoon.450
Nice to hear that it sold to a well respected forum member. I’m looking forward to seeing the history being updated and the car being completed.

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:30 am
by Nevsmini
spoon.450 wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:56 pm Nice to hear that it sold to a well respected forum member. I’m looking forward to seeing the history being updated and the car being completed.
Well I’ve been called many things by many people but ‘well respected forum member’ would be a new one 😂

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:15 pm
by spoon.450
:D :D Hope you’ve had a good Christmas Nev. Please keep us posted regarding ORX.

Re: ORX 77F

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:01 am
by Nevsmini
Lineage of ORX77F from New to Present day.

MG Car Co.(Abingdon) : Sept 1967 - March 1969

Geoff Grundy : March 1969 - Aug 1970

Raymond Thompson : 1970 - 1973

Richard Johnson : 1973 - 1977

Peter & Richard Tooth : 1977 - 2021

Neville Smyth : Present Owner