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by worksminis » 30 Apr 2017, 18:48

Monte Carlo January 64. Makinen/Vanson. Group 2.

Used as a recce car?

Spa-Sofia-Liege August 64. Wadsworth/Wood. Non-homologated spec. cars permitted.


Sold to K. James

Browning records this car (and 569FMO) as first registered in November 63. This raises the question as to why the reg number is not an A suffix number.
There is a suggestion the 64 Monte rally cars were all used for Monte recce at some point. (The non-FMO Monte cars were older registrations). This would explain the Nov 63 registration.
The Monte car would have had a 1071 engine like winner 33 EJB (1275 not yet homologated).
The Liege car had a 1275 (1293). It is described by Wood in “The Last Liege” as, towards the end, “the body was getting a little loose at the seams”. It had been kicked by a donkey on the rear n/s quarter. It had been rolled on to its side to change the couplings (probably not as carefully as that was done on later occasions). The sump guard was held up with rope around the front body top Xmember.
It seems likely that, as for 569FMO, the reg number was sold with the car because, as a pre-suffix registration, it was already looking a bit dated.
There is no proof available that there was not a number plate swap with another car between the two works appearances but it seems unlikely.

by davidscothorn » 29 May 2017, 15:43

DVLA AUSTIN MINI COOPER S 1963 1071 DOR 12/63 SORN MOTX

by davidscothorn » 06 May 2017, 19:41

I seem to recall that 1963 A suffix was only used when Licensing Authorities had run out of their allocated letters. I have no suggestion as to why pre-suffix were in use in early 1964

by davidscothorn » 06 May 2017, 19:35

.............. and presumably also applies to 33 EJB and 569FMO

by davidscothorn » 06 May 2017, 19:20

''This raises the question as to why the reg number is not an A suffix number''.

The answer seems because, for some reason, Berkshire County Council did not allocate any A suffix numbers.
In fact, the B suffix is not issued until February 1964(BL, JB and MO) and March 1964 (RX)
So, presumably there were some pre-suffix cars registered as late as January 1964

Images

A registrations were virtually all London issue.

B registrations were more common.

1965 was the first year for suffix letters across the board.

This car is over here in Northern Ireland. Ken Colbert restored it to a very high standard in 2017. These photographs were taken at our local show in 2017

Alan

That is two of my friends Martin Holland and Elgin Greer doing final touches to 570 FMO before the show opened to the public

Alan

mk1 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:15 pm by davidscothorn » 06 May 2017, 19:41

I seem to recall that 1963 A suffix was only used when Licensing Authorities had run out of their allocated letters. I have no suggestion as to why pre-suffix were in use in early 1964

Not many Authorities issued A suffix registrations. I had a December ‘63 850 SDL reg 396 HDM which was a Flintshire registration. I’ve never seen a - - - JDM registration so presumably went to B suffix 1 January 1964.

1964 Monte

1964 Spa-Sofia-Liege

1964 Spa-Sofia-Liege