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KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:12 pm
by Charlynsane
Hello Guys,

Are we were rebuilding my engine, I fitted a KAD quick shift

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Could you confirm me it's well fitted?

Thank you

Charles

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:57 pm
by CooperTune
I get ask about the quick/short shift kits often. I have removed more than I have sucsessfully installed.
Most have been rod change. I have not installed one myself on a remote. I have removed a couple people
were not happy with. I kind of wonder if the extended lower end of the stick sometimes contacts the
lower edge of the remote ball cup. I like the nice chrome stick and I saw off the lower ball and weld the
stick back together the length of a stock stick. Of course KAD has a smaller ball at the lower end and
they have their own plastic cup.

If it bench shifts as you like it should be good. Steve (CTR)

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:50 pm
by Charlynsane
Thank you for your help


I had a KAD one as well on my track MK5 very confortable but the others copy are a pain to install and don't work properly

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:00 pm
by Oneball
I’m sure I read somewhere that KAD made an error on the first batch of quickshifts causing difficulties selecting gears which they quickly rectified. But a lot of companies made copies of the original batch so they don’t work well.

From past experience of going through old hall with a detached gear lever in my hand, Loctite or wire the two retaining screws.

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:51 pm
by dutchacme
KAD for 4 synchro remotes work a treat, for a 3 synchro it can be tricky

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:00 pm
by Spider
The 'thing' with any Short Throw Shifter (Quick Shifter), Remote or Rod is that all the linkages, pivots, levers, balls, bushes and shafts have to have next to no play in them. I feel, fitting one to a worn shift mechanism, makes something that's not good, worse.

I've fitted quite a few of the Mini Spares version of the Rod Shift types, but overhauled the Shifter at the same time. I love them and the friends who I've fitted them for also love them.

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:05 pm
by Charlynsane
Perfect!

If I'm not happy with fit, I can refit the original gear lever

The first version of the remote extension (997/1071) with the original gear lever and dome gaiter is more direct, but it's very hard to find nowadays

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:43 am
by imack
You need to remove this lever locating bolt and install it into the black KAD adapter plate above.

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:38 am
by Lakeland997
No imack, the KAD has a pin pressed in so the bolt is redundant.

However, you may need to consider flipping the top retaining plate over depending on what boot you’re fitting.

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:15 am
by Nick W
I had one on new in 2017. On the road it seemed good , but first hill climb, it would not go in to 3rd when driving flat out.
After refitting my original gear stick , the problem was sorted.

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:17 am
by Charlynsane
Hello Guys

Thank you for your advice and help

I'm gonna fit a regular gear lever water, I hope it will fit

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:19 am
by imack
Lakeland997 wrote:No imack, the KAD has a pin pressed in so the bolt is redundant.

However, you may need to consider flipping the top retaining plate over depending on what boot you’re fitting.
They must have changed it since I bought my remote quick shift then. Mine needed the bolt swapped from the remote housing to the KAD adapter plate.

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:09 am
by 850man
I have removed more of them than I care to count.
They are rubbish. They kill Mini baulk rings in no time. Dont bother fitting one, they are for rice burners, not 60 year old classic cars.

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:36 am
by mk1
I fully agree witn the comments above. All "quickshifts" are rubbish, they knacker baulk rings and don't make the shift any quicker, just a bit closer.

Horrid things.

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:45 am
by billycooper
Nick W wrote:I had one on new in 2017. On the road it seemed good , but first hill climb, it would not go in to 3rd when driving flat out.
After refitting my original gear stick , the problem was sorted.
Exactly the same with me !

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:25 am
by GraemeC
To be fair I love mine and it certainly gets used in anger - never had a failed shift. The 'lift for reverse' collar is much better than lifting the stick and gives better reassurance that your int he 3/4 gate rather than gone too far over.

The only problems were that the initial one (7 years ago?) had been chrome plated after the circlip grooves either side of the ball at the bottom were cut. The result was the circlips used to drift out and the ball move. KAD fixed this without question and I think have since improved them in this area.

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:01 pm
by Charlynsane
mk1 wrote:I fully agree witn the comments above. All "quickshifts" are rubbish, they knacker baulk rings and don't make the shift any quicker, just a bit closer.

Horrid things.
Hello mark

Could you explain us why it knacker bald rings?

If you engage shift properly using your clutch, why it should knacker baulk rings??

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:01 pm
by CooperTune
It's about words, quick shift implies less time between gears. The baulk rings / synchro need time to bring
the next gear up to speed to allow the face dogs to engage. It is possible with the clutch and gas pedal to
line them up but that don't always happen. I must say I have yanked a std stick much harder than needed
a few times. The std stick gives greater leverage which could be harder on shift forks. I have driven a few
quick shift cars that the gears are in a nice tight pattern and you don't have to hurry your shift. New generation
KAD rod change. My younger brother God Bless Him. He could break a cannon ball in a sand pile with a rubber hammer.
Try it, if you like you don't have to destroy the tranny. Steve (CTR)

Re: KAD quick shift fitting

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:51 am
by Charlynsane
Hello Steve

Thank you very much for those explanations,

I always drive my cars with consciousness and respect for the mechanic, and I drive my car less than 300 miles/years

I will try and if I'm not satisfied I will remove it