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Chassis number location

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:21 pm
by Robinmk1
Is it the case that a Morris Mini 1961 would have the chassis/body number stamped on the right side stiffener in the engine bay?
That this number is seen on a thin plate on the bulk head behind water bottle and on a vin plate mounted on the radiator cowl?

Re: Chassis number location

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:40 am
by Robinmk1
Robinmk1 wrote:Is it the case that a Morris Mini 1961 would have the chassis/body number stamped on the right side stiffener in the engine bay?
That this number is seen on a thin plate on the bulk head behind water bottle and on a vin plate mounted on the radiator cowl?

Edit: believe the thin plate on bulk head is the body number and not chassis number.

I think I want to know if the stamping the chassis number on the stiffener was the norm in those days at the Morris factory (Cowley)???

Re: Chassis number location

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:47 am
by woodypup59
YES
In fact early Austin AND Morris cars have the chassis number (just the numbers) stamped into the stiffener near the fusebox & voltage reg.

My Morris has a BMK number (the body number) stamped on a little plate next to the speedo.

The official VIN Plate is the oval alloy plate next to the radiator and that should have the full number in the style of "M MA2S4 12345".

Re: Chassis number location

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:28 pm
by Fanfaniracing
I have here a 62 morris Traveller UK market and a unrestaured 62 Austin Cooper with No Chassis Nr stamped on the stiffener...

Re: Chassis number location

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:05 am
by smithyrc30
Fanfaniracing wrote:I have here a 62 morris Traveller UK market and a unrestaured 62 Austin Cooper with No Chassis Nr stamped on the stiffener...
Sounds correct. All the Cooper and S and non-saloons were built at Longbridge and the A frame stamp was a Cowley only process.

Re: Chassis number location

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:33 am
by woodypup59
We have a June '61 Austin saloon in the workshop at present with the chassis number stamped in the stiffener.

So do I assume it was built at Cowley ?

Re: Chassis number location

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:07 pm
by Jim1071
woodypup59 wrote:We have a June '61 Austin saloon in the workshop at present with the chassis number stamped in the stiffener.

So do I assume it was built at Cowley ?
I don't think you can assume.

both Austin and morris had a stamp on the stiffener

if the front body was original and built at cowley there should be a mfg plate on the front by the right hand bonnet bumper
I think NPM

my april super deluxe was made at Cowley ... even the VIN plate says Longbridge with no M in number

Re: Chassis number location

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:07 pm
by Robinmk1
After being at the rather wet start to the Mini Action day at Castle Combe, I was able to check out three 59 Morris Minis and none of them had the chassis number stamped into the stiffener? Was this something performed later on, in my case on a 61 MK1?

Re: Chassis number location

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:13 pm
by Polarsilver
My Father in Law worked for BRS & as a Driver he delivered Mini Body in White Shells on his Lorry from Pressed Steel Cowley up to Longbridge .. clearly both Austin & Morris Mini shells were made together at Press Steel Cowley at some point in the 1960,s

Re: Chassis number location

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:41 pm
by Costafortune
The number would have been stamped in at the end of production after the VIN plate was screwed on I should think.

Re: Chassis number location

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:23 pm
by Robinmk1
Can I ask what the font size/type used to make the stamp? I have some numbers in no particular order as an example 35064.
TIA for your help and HNY.
Robin

Re: Chassis number location

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:04 am
by bill773mini
BOTH Cowley and Longbridge stamped the chassis number in the stiffener but it's a random hit and miss affair and certainly became less and less common as the early 60's went on. Cowley persisted with it longer than Longbridge certainly.

The numbers are always UNDER the paint and usually requires the removal of the paint to expose them so the chassis number was allocated to the shell BEFORE paint.

Photograph is of my June 59 Longbridge built Austin stiffener when I bought it, it's difficult to read but the numbers are there.

http://1959miniregister.com/variations-numbers/

Re: Chassis number location

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:53 am
by dodge44
Costafortune wrote:The number would have been stamped in at the end of production after the VIN plate was screwed on I should think.
Only discovered the stamping on my November '62 assembled car when I took the paint back to bare metal - the filler primer had been rather liberally applied by the Cowley paint shop and completely filled the indented numbers which as you can see are just bopped in 'straight-ish'. So stamped on before the paint process :)