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you cant beat a decent rollcage!
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:46 pm
by rich@minispares.com
Re: you cant beat a decent rollcage!
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:57 pm
by mk1
Whoops!
Is that what they call a high speed crash?
Re: you cant beat a decent rollcage!
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:24 pm
by Richspec
Credit to Owens Motorsport when you see the pictures of whats left of it.
Re: you cant beat a decent rollcage!
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:49 pm
by rich@minispares.com
Richspec wrote:Credit to Owens Motorsport when you see the pictures of whats left of it.
indeed
ive seen a full set of photos of it and ive never seen a mini thats been formed around its own roll cage before
its absolutley fecked, but the cage was such that the bulkhead didnt move
Re: you cant beat a decent rollcage!
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:37 pm
by Pete
Eeesshhh.....
Re: you cant beat a decent rollcage!
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:29 pm
by spraybeateer
Dito, on the rollcage! and this was back in 1973 before the complex rolcage designs of now
This was in Autocross so on grass with no barriers and things to hit,
and a couple of weeks later after a bit of PortoPower and hammer and dolly work
Rallycross meeting at Knockhill,
This is the car when it was prepared for the season.
Great memories of back in the day, I still keep in touch with the driver! visited him on the
way down to Gaydon last week.
The Count
Re: you cant beat a decent rollcage!
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:56 am
by rich@minispares.com
cracking photos frank!
Re: you cant beat a decent rollcage!
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:12 pm
by ivor badger 2
Pete wrote:Eeesshhh.....
I've been told that it was on its 5th race and they are trying to see what is salvageable, very little apparently. The car is supposed to have cost £35K
Re: you cant beat a decent rollcage!
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:41 pm
by rich@minispares.com
ivor badger 2 wrote: very little apparently
you wouldnt even want to risk the engine and box, after that sort of hard stop stuff will be so stressed it will just fail for fun
its going to prove to be an expensive driver error, but the lucky thing is that neither he, or the marshalls where too badly injured
Re: you cant beat a decent rollcage!
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:17 pm
by Richspec
I saw on FB that the engine and box was out and away for checks the day after. You can probably get a few useable parts but all the big ticket items will be scrap.
Re: you cant beat a decent rollcage!
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:43 pm
by Pete
rich@minispares.com wrote:ivor badger 2 wrote: very little apparently
you wouldnt even want to risk the engine and box, after that sort of hard stop stuff will be so stressed it will just fail for fun
its going to prove to be an expensive driver error, but the lucky thing is that neither he, or the marshalls where too badly injured
If it hit front end first it possibly bent the crank aswell!
Great pics Frank by the way!
Re: you cant beat a decent rollcage!
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:40 pm
by ivor badger 2
Watched the tape again along with footage from another car just behind. In my humble opinion, if you jerk left with someone you have partially overtaken, then that sort of incident is inevitable. Watching the 2 tapes gives the impression that no one allows for the fact that others are on the track and that during most of the race. Maybe it's a reflection on the class where there is nothing between the cars and desperate actions take place, or maybe too much Ayrtoun Senna/ Lewis Hamilton.
Re: you cant beat a decent rollcage!
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:06 am
by YMJ
ivor badger 2 wrote:Watched the tape again along with footage from another car just behind. In my humble opinion, if you jerk left with someone you have partially overtaken, then that sort of incident is inevitable. Watching the 2 tapes gives the impression that no one allows for the fact that others are on the track and that during most of the race. Maybe it's a reflection on the class where there is nothing between the cars and desperate actions take place, or maybe too much Ayrtoun Senna/ Lewis Hamilton.
Too much BTCC is normalising this sort of driving. It's not incompetence...Max and Dan are good drivers. Just so much at stake that they happily risk this sort of incident. I'm off.
Re: you cant beat a decent rollcage!
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:18 am
by mk1
I agree, really aggressive driving should be really seriously punished.
If people want to go & smash cars up they can go banger racing.
Really aggressive behaviour only drives "normal" people out of the sport.
Re: you cant beat a decent rollcage!
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:49 am
by ivor badger 2
Go to youtube and find Peter Baldwin at croft in Mini Miglia. He sits back for the first few laps while the banger racers get on with it and then takes the lead and drives away. watch the difference in the car when behind and then in front.