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Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:12 am
by Jeroen Booij
After a long and hard search I finally found the Mini Marcos that came 15th at Le Mans in 1966!
I've already started a series of reports on my own weblog, with more to follow:

http://maximummini.blogspot.com/2016/12 ... arcos.html
http://maximummini.blogspot.com/2016/12 ... cos-2.html
http://maximummini.blogspot.com/2016/12 ... cos-1.html

But... now the great hunt for parts should also be started.
As you can see I need just about everything mechanical.
All help would be much appreciated!

Jeroen

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:20 am
by mk1
What a great find Jeroen!

If I can be of any help re parts, just give me a shout.

You will have your work cut out getting it finished in time for Blyton :lol:

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:22 am
by mini63
Good luck with getting it on the track Jeroen!

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:22 am
by Pete
Totally epic. Great when REAL historic survivors are discovered like this. Rachel's 129 LNP, Paul's GRX 309D, Jonny's Downton racer, the Arden in NZ, Chris's Broadspeed GTS, Trev's Vita racer, Paul's Ratcliffe racer, the list goes on and they do keep turning up! Fantastic! I really enjoyed doing all the forensic stuff on my Unipower, like peeling back the layers of history, bet you've not slept for a month Jeroen! :lol:

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:29 am
by Red Mist
Fantastic find!

As a fellow owner of a Marcos, I'm looking forward to seeing more of this car 8-)

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:29 am
by Pete
Yes bring it to Blyton, be great to see it alongside Gary's very similar early Marcos racer. 8-)

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:46 am
by Pete
So we know it had a Special Tuning engine in it, I suggest you speak to Basil Wales Jeroen because when I wrote an article about this car a few years back he came back to me and commented on how he was involved and how he supplied the engine. Stuart Turner was non too keen on the idea at the time and didn't want it known about as a poor result would have reflected badly on BMC (little did he know eh?....). I'll send you his details Jeroen.

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:04 pm
by surfblue63
Great find Jeroen.

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:06 pm
by steve1071
What a fantastic find.

:)

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:11 pm
by Jeroen Booij
Pete wrote:So we know it had a Special Tuning engine in it, I suggest you speak to Basil Wales Jeroen because when I wrote an article about this car a few years back he came back to me and commented on how he was involved and how he supplied the engine. Stuart Turner was non too keen on the idea at the time and didn't want it known about as a poor result would have reflected badly on BMC (little did he know eh?....). I'll send you his details Jeroen.

It's not certain that it used a Special Tuning engine, Pete. When I interviewed Jean-Claude Hrubon a couple of years ago he told me:

"I bought one of the first Marcos bodies, took it home to Paris and started building it. By this time we'd found a sponsor, too: Hubert Giraud who ran a company in ceramics and raced an Austin Cooper 'S' at the time. We decided to use his car's 1275 engine to build up the Marcos. However, later we fitted another engine as he wanted his back! This was another 1275 which had the Weber carburettor rather than the twin SUs."

I believe it ran with the Giraud sourced (and Hrubon tuned) engine at Le Mans as it used SUs there.

Unfortunately Hrubon passed away just a couple of days before I picked up his old racer...

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:14 pm
by Pete
Jeroen Booij wrote:
I believe it ran with the Giraud sourced (and Hrubon tuned) engine at Le Mans as it used SUs there.
Really? The plot thickens! Any underbonnet shots from Le Mans about Jeroen?

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:19 pm
by Jeroen Booij
Pete wrote:
Jeroen Booij wrote:
I believe it ran with the Giraud sourced (and Hrubon tuned) engine at Le Mans as it used SUs there.
Really? The plot thickens! Any underbonnet shots from Le Mans about Jeroen?
Yes, I have a beautiful set of hi-res detail under bonnet shots, taken by an amateur photographer, who was a friend of Hrubon. I'll see if I can post them here.

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:28 pm
by Jeroen Booij
Voila.
These were taken when the car was build-up in early 1966 at Hrubon's workshop in Paris.
The car has not yet been painted blue.

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:50 pm
by tintoptom
Wow!

You couldn't hope for a better set of shots to help you put things back to the way they once were!

Congratulations on a superb find.

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:56 pm
by Jeroen Booij
tintoptom wrote:Wow!

You couldn't hope for a better set of shots to help you put things back to the way they once were!

Congratulations on a superb find.
Thanks, it is indeed a great reference.
This picture was printed in l'Automobile magazine and was taken at the track.
It certainly looks to be the same engine.

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:18 pm
by almondgreen
Has the engine colour changed ?

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:41 pm
by Jeroen Booij
almondgreen wrote:Has the engine colour changed ?
I don't know!

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:57 pm
by rpb203
Looks like it still has the side mounted radiator, was this changed to a front mounted radiator and header tank for Le Mans, would have made the cooling a bit better unless there was some serious surgery in the area of the wheel arch?
It's a shame that you can't make out the number on the chassis plate, it must be quite an early shell to have been prepped ready for racing mid '66.
Do you have any shots of the long range tank, if it's still there, would be really interesting to see where it was located.
Looks like a fantastic project and brilliant that it has been found, well done.
The aim is to get my Mk1 ready for Blyton, I've failed the previous 2 years!, that is if I'm not too late for an entry.
Gary

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:59 pm
by rpb203
Just noticed that there appears to be a number stamped on the ridge of the flywheel casing, can you make the number or what is stamped out from the photos?

Re: Le Mans Mini Marcos found

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:03 pm
by mk1
that is if I'm not too late for an entry.

Sorry,

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