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Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plate?

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:45 am
by Red and White
Found these photographs last night from Stoneleigh in 1988 or 89 - would really like to know
the registration of the car as only have these 3 pictures and none with the reg plates showing.
Any suggestions ?

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:48 am
by Red and White
... sorry and these as well.

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:50 am
by Red and White
.... obviously still getting to grips with uploading photos !

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:02 pm
by smithyrc30
Any chance you can make them bigger?

The size of them makes it impossible to pick out any detail.

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:16 pm
by mzmini
For what its worth the upper name is Timo but cant dig the co driver out as said image is very small

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:30 pm
by Red and White
Driver is Makinen with Co Driver Pekka Keskitalo .......

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:35 pm
by Red and White
Hopefully this one helps as well ....... gorgeous little beast it was too !

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:39 pm
by Red and White
..... different colour of front seats ?

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:29 pm
by billycooper
This is a guess but i would say its GRX195D, which Timo used on 1000 lakes in with Pekka in 1967, it went through a few owners before Gerry Braithwaite bought it late 80s early 90s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fV6fUR3OeU
timo-makinen-1967.jpg
And one I took when Gerry had it
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Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:12 pm
by mzmini
Cheers billycooper nice car I stumbled across all Raymond Baxter's GRX 195D 66 Monte BBC and Abingdon works papers his Radio Times reports pace notes expense form BMC and his letter apologizing to Stewart Turner for his poor performance its a mind blowing it must have been my lucky day :oops:

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:30 pm
by smithyrc30
I thought it was JBL493D which the pair drove in the 1000 lakes in 1966.

It has the holes in the wings for the headlight washer which GRX195D does not and the bonnet strap is closer to the badge than GRX195D

Timo and Pekka did the 1000 lakes 5 times together. wice in AJB33B, which it certainly is not, once in JBL, once in GRX and once in ORX77F which again it is not.

There is a picture of JBL on the event on page 88 of Browning's Works Minis (second edition) which shows the strap in the position of the subject car but it does not have the headlight washer holes... The 1000 lakes of 1966 was also the last rally that JBL took part in as a works entry.

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:18 pm
by billycooper
smithyrc30 wrote:I thought it was JBL493D which the pair drove in the 1000 lakes in 1966.

It has the holes in the wings for the headlight washer which GRX195D does not and the bonnet strap is closer to the badge than GRX195D

Timo and Pekka did the 1000 lakes 5 times together. wice in AJB33B, which it certainly is not, once in JBL, once in GRX and once in ORX77F which again it is not.

There is a picture of JBL on the event on page 88 of Browning's Works Minis (second edition) which shows the strap in the position of the subject car but it does not have the headlight washer holes... The 1000 lakes of 1966 was also the last rally that JBL took part in as a works entry.


mmm, Simon, Pete or Smoke will know !, 493D is owned by BMW now, pics below

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Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:13 pm
by Simon776
My money would be on EWK 799C. Run by Tom Seal on a few of historic events for Timo.

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:19 pm
by SMOKE GREY
Simon776 wrote:My money would be on EWK 799C. Run by Tom Seal on a few of historic events for Timo.
Spot on Simon :!:

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:47 am
by billycooper
SMOKE GREY wrote:
Simon776 wrote:My money would be on EWK 799C. Run by Tom Seal on a few of historic events for Timo.
Spot on Simon :!:
See, best left to the experts !! :lol: , gave me chance to put up GRX195D youtube clip if nothing else !! 8-)

so where is EWK799C now ?

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:11 pm
by Red and White
Great info Billy - Many thanks for that and great to put a reg number against the old pics.

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:55 pm
by Red and White
Not sure where EWK 799C is now but she used to be in the David Sutton Motorsport Museum in Daventry before the whole collection was sold.....

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:19 pm
by Pete
Approximatley when was EWK last seen then? Tom built a 'BJB 77B' historic rally car for Timo aswell didn't he?

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:40 pm
by billycooper
I think this confirms what Simon and Steve came up with

Interesting article from minispares

http://www.minispares.com/article/MiniT ... f-approval

Re: Old Stoneleigh photos from around 1988 or 89 - reg. plat

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:20 am
by Simon776
I first saw EWK 779C in the early 1980's when it was for sale at a very small car dealers opposite the Coventry City football ground at Highfield Road. At that time it was a very original Surf Blue/OEW Austin Cooper S on 3½" rims, the only mod was a bucket seat for the driver but the original was in the car. Price was around £795.

Next time I saw it, it had become the full Group 2 works replica.

I think EWK was sold at a Race Retro auction about eight or nine years ago.