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Hermetite Alternatives
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 4:28 pm
by mk1
I am traumatised!
Having nearly reached the bottom of my last 125ml bottle of Green Hermetite I thought I had better get a replacement or two ordered.
DISASTER!
I have just discovered that the entire range of Hermetite Gasket sealants have been discontinued.
I absolutely detest that crappy blue slime Hylomar & don't like using silicone sealants like I use around my bath. What is anyone else using now.
To say I am staggered that these brilliant products are no more is the understatement of the year so far!
Re: Hermetite Alternatives
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 4:42 pm
by rich@minispares.com
I use either red rtv type stuff
or
recently a tube of victor reinz goo came through the post
ive been using that and its ace
ive put the half used tube in my car for you to try!
Re: Hermetite Alternatives
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 4:43 pm
by smithyrc30
Loctite 515 or 518.
Best sealants ever bar none.
Use them on my bikes and cars, never had a leak in 20+years of using them.
Used to use Hermetite but it is an aerobic (like silicone) sealant so it drops bits into the water or oil. The Loctites are anaerobic so do not have this issue.
Re: Hermetite Alternatives
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 4:52 pm
by rich@minispares.com
the only trouble with fancy sealers is that while they may 'do the job' they are utter bastards to get the faces clean when you are rebuilding stuff - its a huge pain on the racers if you have to spend a couple of hours chipping rockhard sealer off all the faces.
grease is great as the gaskets just peel off
the red rtv stuff I use is about 80% perfect
the last tube of 'raspberry topping' stuff I use nearly reduced me to tears......
anyway
you can still buy red hermatite.............
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HYLOMAR-HERME ... 35c9e068d0
Re: Hermetite Alternatives
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 5:05 pm
by mk1
I had already spotted that & had also realised that it is not red hermetite. It just looks like it.
Not to mention the price of course

Re: Hermetite Alternatives
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 5:13 pm
by rich@minispares.com
Re: Hermetite Alternatives
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 6:38 pm
by pad4
Rich has got some Hermephradites locked away in his shed
pad
Re: Hermetite Alternatives
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:00 pm
by Ronnie
I have just had a bit of a look on the web it is possibly the item that you referred to Mark I see Stag have their name on the tin now,but Wellseal is very like the Hermatite you refer to but it always stays soft (like the tacky stuff that was used on a lot of the continental gaskets) and like Hylomar they both carried a Rolls Royce patent in the 70's (think Merlin) long before they were stocked by Halfords.

Re: Hermetite Alternatives
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:19 pm
by cpr1
I use Payen and it's quite good and not expensive here in Malta
Re: Hermetite Alternatives
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:42 pm
by ivor badger 2
Replacement for Hermatite =Araldite, double bond or any good setting adhesive?
Re: Hermetite Alternatives
Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 1:14 am
by Spider
Re: Hermetite Alternatives
Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 2:48 am
by smithyrc30
rich@minispares.com wrote:the only trouble with fancy sealers is that while they may 'do the job' they are utter bastards to get the faces clean when you are rebuilding stuff - its a huge pain on the racers if you have to spend a couple of hours chipping rockhard sealer off all the faces.
Nope, just a bit of acetone on a clean cloth an the hardened sealer comes off. You can buy Loctite remover but at twice the price of acetone (which it basically is anyway) it does not make much sense.
Where the sealer has not had the air excluded it is soft and pliable and can be wiped off with a cloth.
It even dissolves in oil so it will not block up oil strainers like aerobic sealants (read silicone sealers and hermatite etc).
Re: Hermetite Alternatives
Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 3:56 am
by minimans
Wellseal designed by Roll-Royce for aircraft and it's what we used in the dealer network It's really excellent stuff and smells OH so good!!!!!
Re: Hermetite Alternatives
Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 5:37 pm
by carbon
There are two versions of the blue Hylomar.
I've used the original solvent based version for a long time, much prefer this to Hermetite. But you do need to degrease the parts well using environmentally unfriendly solvents like trike...
Re: Hermetite Alternatives
Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 7:26 pm
by PaulH
dirko Is the nuts in my opinion, super consistent and is OE for a lot of manufacture's