100mph Cooper Speedo differences

[rolesyboy]

I bought a 100mph dead speedo with 5 digits plus trip which i was going to fit to my 998 Mk1 Cooper.
I have now realized that this is in fact a 997 Mk1 Cooper speedo (serial number looks like it ends '06') so arguably rarer but not the correct one for my car
I have a feeling that very early Mk1 997 Coopers had a 5 digit odometer with no trip so the question is what period of 997 would this be suitable for? I am guessing 62-64 but would like clarification. If anybody wants it I will be putting it in the for sale section once I have established what it is for.
Thanks. Mark

[Simon776]

Do you really mean it has a separate trip or just a 10ths digit?

[rolesyboy]

Separate trip = ££££££ Ker-ching so not surprisingly I haven't got a separate trip.
Sorry Simon, I didn't explain that very well.
Mine is the poor mans version with 10ths of a mile in yellow at the end. Cheers

[STG95F]

Mark , does it have the Amber lights fitted at 9 & 3 oclock . like the later type speedo ?

Ian

[nick rogers]

I have a Cooper speedo with a trip (as well as a Cooper S one and a silver 850 mini one), so they exist. The 6 digit 100 dead without trip starts in May 62 and should be SN4479/06. The 5 digit SN4409/06 starts in Oct 61 and carries on until April 62.
Someone else may be able to pin it down by chassis number. The almond green 997 I just sold last year had the 5 digit odometer.

[STG95F]

Nick , My speedo serial number is 4417/00 1378

If that means anything ?


A Late mk1 998 ??

Ian

[rolesyboy]

This is the one. No orange lights Ian. Think they must have been an optional extra LOL

[STG95F]

Looks like an early one 997/998 . Mark what year is your car ?

[rolesyboy]

1967 on an E

[STG95F]

The one i am trying to buy is a April 1967 on a E . Island blue

[Simon776]

That one is too early for a 1967.

It should be this style

[rolesyboy]

Hi Simon, yep I know it's too early. It's a 997 speedo. Just wanted to clarify what years this particular type was fitted. Looks like 62 -64. Earlier ones had 5 digit odometer. Cheers

[STG95F]

Simon , Do you know the company in you Photo of the speedo ??

Ian

[nick rogers]

Ian, The 4417/00 is for 850 saloon, van and pickup Aug 64 to Sept 67, calibrated to 95mph with 1376 TPM on C41 tyres.

[STG95F]

Thanks Nick , the one in Simons photos does no look right or is it me ??

Ian

[Simon776]

I borrowed the picture from ebay, Ennion workshop do quite a bit of Mini restoring I believe.

[surfblue63]

Info on Somerfords site

http://www.somerfordmini.co.uk/eshop/in ... page&id=83

Speedometers - Cooper With 3.76:1 Final Drive Ratio (Standard Fitment), 1961-69
SN4409/06 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, MPH 1 1961-62 (5L206).
SN4479/06 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, MPH 1 1962-64 (13H654).
SN4417/04 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, MPH 1 1964-65 (13H2264).
SN4417/44 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, MPH 1 1965-67 (13H3050).
SN4421/22 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, MPH 1 1967-69 (13H4432).
SN4409/07 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, KPH 1 1961-62 (5L208).
SN4479/07 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, KPH 1 1962-64 (13H656).
SN4417/05 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, KPH 1 1964-65 (13H2265).
SN4417/45 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, KPH 1 1965-67 (13H3052).
SN4421/23 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, KPH 1 1967-69 (13H4434).
SN4421/63 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, magnolia face, KPH 1 1967-69; alternative.

Speedometers - Cooper With 3.44:1 Final Drive Ratio (Optional Fitment), 1961-69
SN4409/14 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, MPH 1 1961-62 (5L316).
SN4479/14 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, MPH 1 1962-64 (13H658).
SN4417/08 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, MPH 1 1964-65 (13H2268).
SN4417/48 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, MPH 1 1965-67 (13H3054).
SN4421/26 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, MPH 1 1967-69 (13H4436).
SN4409/15 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, KPH 1 1961-62 (5L318).
SN4479/15 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, KPH 1 1962-64 (13H660).
SN4417/09 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, KPH 1 1964-65 (13H2269).
SN4417/49 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, KPH 1 1965-67 (13H3056).
SN4421/27 SPEEDOMETER ASSEMBLY, black face, KPH 1 1967-69 (13H4438).

[Simon776]

Thanks Nick , the one in Simons photos does no look right or is it me ??

It is the right style i.e with the two additional orange lights, but not the correct centre in terms of SN code; hence the reason I specifically used the word 'style'.

[STG95F]

Simon , I have got it now the penny has dropped . Its a MK1 850 speedo head with a MK2 Cooper 100MPH dial because it has indicator warning at the top also the the extra amber lights . am i correct ??

Ian

[davidmuir]

Sorry to butt-in here!
Just checked my 120 MPH speedo against the above numbers and it does not appear.........is the list exhaustive?
Number on speedo is:- SN4417/18 1280

Thanks