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door pillar (a post) and apex panel repair

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:45 am
by matic
hi sirs,
i am now ordering door pillar and apex panel from mmachine. however, i would like to ask you all that is it possible to change these sections (including inner a panel) when the windscreen scuttle and the front wing is still on the car? (my mini has been badly repaired on the door step and a panel. the front wing and fromt panel was changed but there is no rust, including original inner wings (just some minor repairs)
regards
ink

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Re: door pillar (a post) and apex panel repair

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:24 pm
by swifty
Yes you can fit that panel when the front wing and scuttle are on . If you have the inner A panel from m machine there may be a little bit of trimming to do at the top of it ..... Ken

Re: door pillar (a post) and apex panel repair

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:18 pm
by Dr S
If you are a Facebook user have a look for the mini restoration company. You'll find some pictures of my mk2 with this panel removed for replacement. Should give you a good feel for the job in hand.

Nick

Re: door pillar (a post) and apex panel repair

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:13 pm
by matic
hi ken
thank you so much. do you have any techniques to weld and align the panel?

hi nick
i am really sorry. i dont have facebook account T_T. can you please give me some photos and advices in here? this can be shared to others as well.

warm regards and really appreciated
ink

Re: door pillar (a post) and apex panel repair

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:46 pm
by swifty
This is a picture I took of the same panel welded in . But without the wing on .

Re: door pillar (a post) and apex panel repair

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:56 pm
by swifty
Another

Re: door pillar (a post) and apex panel repair

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:46 pm
by STG95F
Nice panel to work with goes in very nice . m-machine every time

Ian

Re: door pillar (a post) and apex panel repair

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:07 pm
by nick@dunsdale
Nice metal work indeed

Re: door pillar (a post) and apex panel repair

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:59 pm
by swifty
Thanks nick , been doing it long enough ... Ken

Re: door pillar (a post) and apex panel repair

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:32 am
by matic
hi ken
thank you so much for posts.
i have seen the post that there needs to weld the inner wing and a post together. can you please advice which position i need to weld it up?
thanks and regards
ink

Re: door pillar (a post) and apex panel repair

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:12 am
by swifty
Ink what I tend to do is fit only the outer panel first by clamping and screwing up . Then bolt the door on and get the door gaps right . When your happy with the door gaps , remove door . Now align up the inner A panel and fit with a few screws to the inner wing only (not the outer a panel) . Now remove outer A panel leaving behind the inner A panel in its already lined up position for welding . Then reposition the outer A panel and door . Then your ready for final welding . .....remember it's easier to dress up / alter the A panel than the door to initially get your door gap . In other words don't try and fit the door in a certain size gap , always make the shell fit the door size ... All the best ...... Ken

Re: door pillar (a post) and apex panel repair

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:15 pm
by matic
hi ken
thank you so so much and really appreciate on your post. i will follow your step by step.

by the way, i have noticed on other members' mini that the a post / door pillar needs to be spot weld with inner wing. (see red circle in the photo). this means i have to drill the hole at door pillar and plug weld it to the inner wing after i finish welding inner a panel, door steps and etc, isn't it?

ps. i dont have spot welder, only co2 (mig welder) on hand

regards
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Re: door pillar (a post) and apex panel repair

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:52 pm
by swifty
Yes if you haven't got a spot welder then plug and weld is fine . Just not as tidy in my opinion . ... Ken