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Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:36 pm
by mab01uk
Anti-Ulez 'Blade Runner' campaigner chops down enforcement cameras with tree lopper:-
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 00577.html

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:59 pm
by Exminiman
mab01uk wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:36 pm Anti-Ulez 'Blade Runner' campaigner chops down enforcement cameras with tree lopper:-
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 00577.html
Why is it that makes me smile so much 👍👍😁😁
Maybe it’s because it has bugger all to do with clean air and a lot to do with indirect taxation …..

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:30 pm
by hanlminiman
I suggest riveting your exempt number plates to your vehicle and take a photo of them on your vehicle locally. Forget double sided sticky back tape. :lol:

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 1:20 pm
by mab01uk
Outer London today but coming to a town near you soon?

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Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:10 pm
by mab01uk
Londoners buy up classic cars to dodge Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion.
Londoners are taking to classic cars as a way of dodging Sadiq Khan’s Ulez charge.
"Dealers say they have witnessed a surge in interest as the capital braces for the £12.50 charge to expand to cover all 32 boroughs next week, while older cars selling online are being advertised for their exemption status.
Cars manufactured before 1983 qualify as “historic vehicles” and do not need to pay the Mayor’s clean air levy to drive in London. They can also be registered for an exemption from vehicle tax.
Merlin McCormack, owner of Duke of London, a vintage car dealership in Brentford, said it was “ironic” that some of his customers buying more affordable classic cars were doing so because they are Ulez-exempt, despite the vehicles being more polluting than modern counterparts.
He said: “We sell a lot of entry level classic cars as well as high end stuff. A lot of what we sell is very driveable early 80s [and] late 70s and where they are [Ulez] exempt a lot of customers are looking to buy that as their sole London car.”
He added that Ulez was now a deciding factor for most of his customers who drive in London.
Reselling and auctioneer website Car & Classic currently has several vehicles listed for sale in and around London advertising that they are exempt from the Ulez charge, such as a 1970 Hillman Imp Super for £9,500 and a 1972 Austin Mini for £20,000.
Transport for London allows for a rolling 40-year window that currently permits Ulez exemptions for cars manufactured in the early eighties."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consu ... expansion/

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:03 am
by Exminiman
mab01uk wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:10 pm Londoners buy up classic cars to dodge Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion.
Londoners are taking to classic cars as a way of dodging Sadiq Khan’s Ulez charge.
"Dealers say they have witnessed a surge in interest as the capital braces for the £12.50 charge to expand to cover all 32 boroughs next week, while older cars selling online are being advertised for their exemption status.
Cars manufactured before 1983 qualify as “historic vehicles” and do not need to pay the Mayor’s clean air levy to drive in London. They can also be registered for an exemption from vehicle tax.
Merlin McCormack, owner of Duke of London, a vintage car dealership in Brentford, said it was “ironic” that some of his customers buying more affordable classic cars were doing so because they are Ulez-exempt, despite the vehicles being more polluting than modern counterparts.
He said: “We sell a lot of entry level classic cars as well as high end stuff. A lot of what we sell is very driveable early 80s [and] late 70s and where they are [Ulez] exempt a lot of customers are looking to buy that as their sole London car.”
He added that Ulez was now a deciding factor for most of his customers who drive in London.
Reselling and auctioneer website Car & Classic currently has several vehicles listed for sale in and around London advertising that they are exempt from the Ulez charge, such as a 1970 Hillman Imp Super for £9,500 and a 1972 Austin Mini for £20,000.
Transport for London allows for a rolling 40-year window that currently permits Ulez exemptions for cars manufactured in the early eighties."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consu ... expansion/
This is being reported on some of the internet news sites as well.

I assume that the only reason that cars older than 40 years are exempt is because they have calculated there is not many of them and they will be driven occasionally and so the impact on air quality will be small.

If the number of 40 year old cars increases, they may well argue the volume of older cars is bad for air quality and charge for them…..or ban them.

He is determined to get his ULEZ tax one way or another……

Not good thing for genuine classic cars enthusiasts within the Ulez zone.

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:58 pm
by mab01uk
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"London was first with Contactless and the Congestion Charge and is now looking to lead the way in introducing a new, more sophisticated type of road pricing. Join TfL now and make this happen. Help us build the next generation road use charging (RUC) platforms. All being built in the cloud."
https://project2030tfl.co.uk/about-us/

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:08 am
by Exminiman
Interesting plan :shock:

Lets face it, in the end his plan is virtually no cars on the road in London by 2030, the roads will be used for automatic (ed) public transport and cycling and skipping.

All personal vehicle movements to be charged by the mile automatically.

This ties in with the “15 minute City” idea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15-minute_city. which effectively creates a small town or village within a city, so that everything, work, Doctors, shopping etc…is all within 15 minutes of where you live.

They can then “ reclaim” the streets and get rid of cars….. other cities are looking at this as well.

I believe this has been on the agenda for quite a while, especially inner London. The inner London boroughs have had loads on money pumped into them and some are now surprisingly nice, leafy areas to live. The areas have been planned with a focus on local living and not cars….

Personally, I think the “The 15 Minute city” idea has lots of merits, unfortunately, its been highjacked by the anti car lobby, the conspiracy theorists, the pro car lobby see it as toxic etc….so any rational debate is now gone…. :(

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:28 am
by mab01uk
Useful Map below showing the London ULEZ camera locations.
Active cameras are shown in red.
Missing/damaged cameras are shown in black.

Julie's ULEZ Map:-
http://tinyurl.com/JulieULEZmap

In spite of numerous requests, TfL is refusing to disclose the location of the cameras. (So much for FOI)
The aim of this page is to crowd-source the location of cameras across the zone.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/297878371978179/

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:21 pm
by kit of bits
So chaps
What’s a good ulez compliant car for under £5000, less than 10 years old and preferably something that can cope with high mileage?
D

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:44 pm
by AndyPen
I've a 2004 HONDA HR-V VTEC 4WD, which is compliant, carries lots of mini spares in the back too ;-)

Here's a low mileage example. The only serious rust they tend to suffer from is the rear of the sills, due to a weird plastic oversill design.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204533249968 ... R_aDwLSAYw

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:13 pm
by BigWig
kit of bits wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:21 pm So chaps
What’s a good ulez compliant car for under £5000, less than 10 years old and preferably something that can cope with high mileage?
D
Not less than ten years old, but a ULEZ compliant straight-six petrol 3-series, or 5-series. Occasional E90 330i comes up at around £5k with low mileage. M Sports command more money, SEs less so.

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 3:11 pm
by Costafortune
kit of bits wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:21 pm So chaps
What’s a good ulez compliant car for under £5000, less than 10 years old and preferably something that can cope with high mileage?
D
Good luck with that.

Avoid old German crap as it will be pissing oil and coolant out in between various mechanical and electrical dramas.

The last decent BMW and Mercedes stuff was built 25 years ago.

As ever, look to Toyota/Lexus.

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:24 am
by BigWig
I wouldn't rule out Toyota or Lexus either, but every car has its issues. Unsure about recent engines, but the only oil leak I've had on the M50 onwards straight-six BMW petrol is a rocker cover gasket.

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:33 am
by Costafortune
M50 and M52's were okay. After that they were made to run hot for emissions which cooks the rubber seals, hoses etc. Anything since then is renowned for leaks. Oil filter housing gasket, vanos solenoid seals, cam cover etc.

After that is the N Series beginning in 2001, N for Nightmare. Don't even think about N43 four cylinder petrols. :lol:

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:36 am
by Costafortune
This however is ULEZ compliant. Looks a pleasant enough thing and unlike later crap, should prove hardy - and won't lose money.

£1500. Why pay more?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395022203853 ... _Auction=1

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:23 pm
by Exminiman
ULEZ Bladerunner, got to admire this guy, especially how much he talks :lol: :lol: :lol:

If a mobile camera pops up around Hillingdon, so does he, even live streams it over TIKTOK

https://youtu.be/Cf3DU4ZWL6Y?si=a3H9NHJQ29izT_L_

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:29 pm
by mab01uk
Exminiman wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:23 pm ULEZ Bladerunner, got to admire this guy, especially how much he talks :lol: :lol: :lol:

If a mobile camera pops up around Hillingdon, so does he, even live streams it over TIKTOK

Helps he`s not a small bloke, otherwise could see him getting chinned by now :lol:

https://youtu.be/Cf3DU4ZWL6Y?si=a3H9NHJQ29izT_L_
He is a very skilled wind up merchant... :lol: :lol:
Funny though how the Police can turn out to stand around watching some TfL guys scrape stickers off their ULEZ enforcement vehicle but don't bother to turn out if your house is being burgled or your car stolen in London..

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:00 am
by BigWig
Costafortune wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:36 am This however is ULEZ compliant. Looks a pleasant enough thing and unlike later crap, should prove hardy - and won't lose money.

£1500. Why pay more?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395022203853 ... _Auction=1
That looks like a great buy...

Re: ULEZ Expansion Planned in London August 2023

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:07 pm
by mab01uk
Politicians, you could not make it up....!

Ukraine, desperately in need of all the help it can get from its western allies in its fight for survival against Putin’s Russia, has been denied a fleet of older vehicles that had been surrendered by Londoners hoping to escape the mayor’s punitive daily charge on those who can’t afford newer cars.
If London doesn’t want them, we could make good use of them, said Ukraine. And so it could, if only London Mayor Khan had been willing to release them. But his commitment to his beloved Ultra-Low Emissions Zone (Ulez) trumped his claimed support for the besieged eastern European country, and so the vehicles will be destroyed instead of aiding the fight against Russian expansionism.
Now we discover that while he was pontificating about the virtue of Ulez and dismissing poorer Londoners’ worries about having to pay up to £250 a month for the privilege of driving their cars, he was happy to promote an industry that is blamed for more carbon emissions than any other – in exchange for free business class transatlantic flights. “We don’t want more flights,” said the mayor in June as part of his Greta Thunberg tribute act. But a year earlier, as he prepared to take his seat in the posher seats for his flight to New York, he tweeted that United Airlines are “now flying 22 times a day from Heathrow to the US”.....