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Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:59 pm
by Nevsmini
Yes I agree, but in this case the actual evidence on the car ties in perfect with the article which makes it more credible i.e. one is backing up the other and the people that wrote the articles in 1969 don't know the cars detail like we all do. If you wanted to go a step closer you would need to set up a tribunal and record all the evidence and this would be laughable to say the least!

Your kind of getting into the realm of what is black and why is it black and can the person that called it Black in the first place be trusted and had genuine motives. There comes a point if it like a pig and smells like a pig is got a 99% chance of being a pig but you will get some people the will say you can't be sure! :lol: and by the way I'm not calling anyone a pig! :lol:

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:19 pm
by Pete
Bit like the story of Epstein buying them all a Mini which was printed for years and years, still is, I always questioned where that little pig came from and as it turned out it was complete rubbish. Loads of here say like that, good to keep a healthy level of cynicism. Non of the crash stories I’ve read come from credible sources, with different cars suggested in them but yes very coincidental with the reshell, agreed. But facts? Bit thin on the ground so far.

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:50 pm
by Pete
I think the other thing with the Beatles is that they were so well loved that very few of their associates have written many revealing stories on them over the years, a very tight knit and loyal group of people, especially Terry Doran.

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:54 pm
by Nevsmini
If you want that level of credibility, where do you get it and who is credible, if Neville Smyth or Peter Flanagan writes something on the topic could it be taken as credible? Neville Smyth owns many coachbuilt minis and people could say ‘That ass is only talking up coachbuilt cars to raise the value of his own cars to make money’ :lol: or They could say ‘Peter Flanagan has owned and sold up to 100 coopers in his life and is only in it for the money the same as Smyth and self promotion’ :lol:. So at the end of the day who is really credible? The same argument can be made about any topic on this forum! Nothing is ever concrete in this world! But this is why it is different when is comes to clear physical evidence in Period photos and the Actual surviving car!

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:01 pm
by WMU 211G
Nothing is real gents, John said so, see...! :lol:

Did anyone get any decent pics of Macca's Radford at Goodwood, I've seen a few elsewhere but mostly of the front of the car...?

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:24 pm
by Nevsmini
WMU 211G wrote:Nothing is real gents, John said so, see...! :lol:
Quote the day sir! Love it! 8-)

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:12 am
by Pete
I’m sure people can and will make their own mind up Nev. I’m still not inclined to believe stories I read on the internet with such little provenance. I’m sure people will make their own minds up about any of the things I say or you do. Not that many will be interested anyway or by now aren’t losing the will to live! :lol:

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:49 am
by Nevsmini
I Agree completely I was board of it a few pages ago, you always get that 1% that just won't agree for whatever the motives are. I answer try to answer as short and direct as possible. Looks like will we never agree on much TBH!

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:52 pm
by Pandora
WMU 211G wrote:
Did anyone get any decent pics of Macca's Radford at Goodwood, I've seen a few elsewhere but mostly of the front of the car...?
here's one of the rear

Al

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:56 pm
by nippycars
Pandora wrote:
WMU 211G wrote:
Did anyone get any decent pics of Macca's Radford at Goodwood, I've seen a few elsewhere but mostly of the front of the car...?
here's one of the rear

Al
I have quite a few of both the cars as I was the only one there looking at them Monday morning. I will upload them later.

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:09 pm
by WMU 211G
Thanks Al & Nippy ;) . I took loads of close ups of George's car in particular, it was probably my only chance to get any given how infrequently it comes out to play.

Really wish I'd been able to do the whole weekend, it's a pity we can't be in two places at once!

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:11 pm
by WMU 211G
mk1coopers wrote:It arrived late Friday night, we gave Steve a hand to get it off the trailer, I've touched a Beatles Mini (or maybe 3 :lol: )
Sorry only just seen your reply - thanks.... you lucky b*gg*r! ;)

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:16 pm
by mk1
Unbeknown to me at the time, I have made the wheel centres for Macca's Mini :D

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:46 am
by Pete
Here you go Nige...

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:58 am
by 66Traveller
mk1 wrote:Unbeknown to me at the time, I have made the wheel centres for Macca's Mini :D
Indeed you did - look great ! :D

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:42 am
by Pete
the steering wheel looks great James! (and number plates!) Here’s the interior of George’s. Not my photo...

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:58 am
by 66Traveller
Jeez that is awful!

Photo (which you've seen before) of it as it was in 1966 below...

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:38 pm
by WMU 211G
Pete wrote:Here you go Nige...
Fantastic, thanks Pete... I'd give my right arm to own any of those Beatles cars :D

(Off topic, I've made a start on fitting the period tinted glass into WMU which Andrew1967 kindly brought to Stanford Hall for me on Sunday, next job is to get the Elf / Hornet side trim rechromed and fitted on the car ;) )

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:02 pm
by 66Traveller
By the by, this car auctioned at Bonhams last year looks to have been fairly untouched - I thought the close up of the auxillary switch panel was interesting - both for the type of toggle switches (which look like Innocenti perhaps because the car was an Innocenti) but also for the labelling (what is a Trombo Horn I wonder)...

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/24957/ ... =10&page=3

Re: Radford mini de ville colour cards found!!!

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:54 pm
by Pete
66Traveller wrote:Jeez that is awful!

Photo (which you've seen before) of it as it was in 1966 below...
. I suppose through our eyes that will look horrendous but actually we could say that about the whole restoration. I doubt George would have seen it that way. The only relatively untouched Beatles Mini now seems to be the ex George/Peter Harrison 998 Radford Cooper.