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Re: what happened to all the de seamed minis

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:20 am
by Pete
Great idea Martin, haven't a clue on value as it's so dependent on condition but would guess about half the price of a Mk1 with seams?

Re: what happened to all the de seamed minis

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:13 pm
by goff
Pete wrote:Great idea Martin, haven't a clue on value as it's so dependent on condition but would guess about half the price of a Mk1 with seams?
Martin get it bought , a deaseamed mini in the 60s / early 70s was the best thing since sliced bread, everything removed including the bumper seams and two tone paint ,make it look like German war helmet .BUY IT.

Re: what happened to all the de seamed minis

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:04 pm
by gpmini
My 59 racer is also deseamed

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12921

Good to hear that this was a period mod done by some competitors.

Leon

Re: what happened to all the de seamed minis

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:57 pm
by mab01uk
gpmini wrote:My 59 racer is also deseamed

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12921

Good to hear that this was a period mod done by some competitors.

Leon
Thanks for the link gpmini......thats exactly how I would like it to look! 8-)

Thanks also Pete & Goff for the comments, good to hear others like the idea of a deseamed period Mini restoration!
I will upload some photos as soon as I can get some and hopefully arrange to view it 'in the metal' asap with my brother.

Martin

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Re: what happened to all the de seamed minis

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:11 pm
by davidnutland
There are at least 2 seamless Elf-Hornets, the Elf is ex-press fleet no information on the Hornet
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As to how many were done in production, no-one knows my 1962 car carries the front end number FE000003 and a finished shell number 67, all the original electrics are dated 1/62 and it has both the front seams, can any one provide any first hand detail on this?
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Re: what happened to all the de seamed minis

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:18 pm
by Pete
The grey Hornet belongs to a forum member. Very nice!

Re: what happened to all the de seamed minis

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:05 am
by Catmint
davidnutland wrote:
As to how many were done in production, no-one knows my 1962 car carries the front end number FE000003 and a finished shell number 67, all the original electrics are dated 1/62 and it has both the front seams, can any one provide any first hand detail on this?
We have narrowed it down with car details we know of and it was not many that were built that way - unfortunatley I can't find the details at the moment !!

I deseamed my pickup - the worst thing I ever did (including putting a furry dash in - well it was the 80's) Took the roof gutters off and every time you went around a corner in the wet it was an impromptu shower. Plus it made panel replacement a pain. Needless to say it is having seams put back in on it's rebuild

Re: what happened to all the de seamed minis

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:31 pm
by foxy52
Very amusing thread this .. especially the comment .. looks like a German war helmet !!??......funny.... but am I in a minority ??.. de -seaming minis is so uncool !! always was .. especially pointless on the roof gutter for rain into the gulf of an open window... like modern plastic gutters fitted badly !!! pointless.. of an age where minis were so cool in my teenage years I know of no one who thinks deseaming a mini is a good idea.. they look shit !!!.. always did and would seriously devalue a cars worth then and now.. but !! chopping a mini into a sprint that is cool and a totally different can of worms .. its just the same on my other car forum.. should I add this ?? should I take off that .. its all crap !! any old car... that's any old car looks so much nicer as it came out of the factory box as it where .... one or 2 tastefull aftermarket items like wheels ,aux lights etc designed for the period .....just my six penneth foxy52

Re: what happened to all the de seamed minis

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:02 pm
by mab01uk
Sorry Foxy don't agree but we all have our different opinions or the world would be boring, part of the appeal of the Mini enthusiast scene was always the variety of peoples interpretations of what made the best modified Mini for them. OK some mods today and in the past were not 'tasteful' to everyones eyes or even practical in daily use but that is true of many things in life. Everything conforming to what came out of the 'factory box' has made many Mini shows today rather dull with rows of 'seen one and you have seen them all'......look back at my photos of the recent Brooklands show (or Mini 20th/25th, etc back in the day) that I have posted on here .....to me it was joy to go to that Brooklands show with so much variety of standard and modified Minis from all periods of the long history of the Mini.....and not just rows of factory showroom spec. cars....nice though they are to also see.

Anyway I remember one of your Minis had Tilling winding windows and many other 'tasteful' mods! De-seaming has its place in Mini history and if a car has already had it done 'in period' I feel it should be preserved for posterity, even if only to allow those who dislike it to say so! :lol:

Re: what happened to all the de seamed minis

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:20 pm
by foxy52
mab01uk wrote:Sorry Foxy don't agree but we all have our different opinions or the world would be boring, part of the appeal of the Mini enthusiast scene was always the variety of peoples interpretations of what made the best modified Mini for them. OK some mods today and in the past were not 'tasteful' to everyones eyes or even practical in daily use but that is true of many things in life. Everything conforming to what came out of the 'factory box' has made many Mini shows today rather dull with rows of 'seen one and you have seen them all'......look back at my photos of the recent Brooklands show (or Mini 20th/25th, etc back in the day) that I have posted on here .....to me it was joy to go to that Brooklands show with so much variety of standard and modified Minis from all periods of the long history of the Mini.....and not just rows of factory showroom spec. cars....nice though they are to also see.

Anyway I remember one of your Minis had Tilling winding windows and many other 'tasteful' mods! De-seaming has its place in Mini history and if a car has already had it done 'in period' I feel it should be preserved for posterity, even if only to allow those who dislike it to say so! :lol:
Perfectly ok if u don't agree.. u don't have to say sorry either...its purely my opinion...I do like yr posts tho mab that's what makes this site brill.....rgds foxy52

Re: what happened to all the de seamed minis

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:12 pm
by Vegard
rich@minispares.com wrote:one day petter will get that car finished!
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Re: what happened to all the de seamed minis

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:29 am
by Alex
I've been on the horns of a dilemma regarding my Hornet for the last few months - deseam the front or not...

So, thankyou to those who've posted the pics of the partially deseamed cars, i know know what I'm going to do :D

Re: what happened to all the de seamed minis

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:30 pm
by goff
foxy52 wrote:
mab01uk wrote:Sorry Foxy don't agree but we all have our different opinions or the world would be boring, part of the appeal of the Mini enthusiast scene was always the variety of peoples interpretations of what made the best modified Mini for them. OK some mods today and in the past were not 'tasteful' to everyones eyes or even practical in daily use but that is true of many things in life. Everything conforming to what came out of the 'factory box' has made many Mini shows today rather dull with rows of 'seen one and you have seen them all'......look back at my photos of the recent Brooklands show (or Mini 20th/25th, etc back in the day) that I have posted on here .....to me it was joy to go to that Brooklands show with so much variety of standard and modified Minis from all periods of the long history of the Mini.....and not just rows of factory showroom spec. cars....nice though they are to also see.

Anyway I remember one of your Minis had Tilling winding windows and many other 'tasteful' mods! De-seaming has its place in Mini history and if a car has already had it done 'in period' I feel it should be preserved for posterity, even if only to allow those who dislike it to say so! :lol:
Perfectly ok if u don't agree.. u don't have to say sorry either...its purely my opinion...I do like yr posts tho mab that's what makes this site brill.....rgds foxy52
Foxy , I de-seamed a mini van including the roof gutter :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: early 70s it looked a right PIG :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ,Wish i had it now , sold it for a few ££££ ,But hey i got to do it PERIOD. :D :D :D :D and that's what its all about :D :D :D :D

Re: what happened to all the de seamed minis

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:03 pm
by foxy52
goff wrote:
foxy52 wrote:
mab01uk wrote:Sorry Foxy don't agree but we all have our different opinions or the world would be boring, part of the appeal of the Mini enthusiast scene was always the variety of peoples interpretations of what made the best modified Mini for them. OK some mods today and in the past were not 'tasteful' to everyones eyes or even practical in daily use but that is true of many things in life. Everything conforming to what came out of the 'factory box' has made many Mini shows today rather dull with rows of 'seen one and you have seen them all'......look back at my photos of the recent Brooklands show (or Mini 20th/25th, etc back in the day) that I have posted on here .....to me it was joy to go to that Brooklands show with so much variety of standard and modified Minis from all periods of the long history of the Mini.....and not just rows of factory showroom spec. cars....nice though they are to also see.

Anyway I remember one of your Minis had Tilling winding windows and many other 'tasteful' mods! De-seaming has its place in Mini history and if a car has already had it done 'in period' I feel it should be preserved for posterity, even if only to allow those who dislike it to say so! :lol:
Perfectly ok if u don't agree.. u don't have to say sorry either...its purely my opinion...I do like yr posts tho mab that's what makes this site brill.....rgds foxy52
Foxy , I de-seamed a mini van including the roof gutter :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: early 70s it looked a right PIG :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ,Wish i had it now , sold it for a few ££££ ,But hey i got to do it PERIOD. :D :D :D :D and that's what its all about :D :D :D :D
...for the sake of decency always keep the roof gutter at least :D ....foxy52