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Re: Actually a General Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:51 pm
by 251 ENG
Toby has a NOS set of D top pistons for sale to suit STD bore

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:26 pm
by snoopy64
Good shout, thanks

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:36 pm
by snoopy64
Ok, bores checked now… quite a bad taper …

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:19 pm
by snoopy64
So, what is the downside to sleeving/fitting liners in a block???

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:23 pm
by Thorp
Simple answer is cost, but no downside on a road engine really.

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:02 pm
by snoopy64
Thorp wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:23 pm Simple answer is cost, but no downside on a road engine really.
I presume you mean compared with a bore out plus new pistons…?

Re: Actually a General Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:19 pm
by OzOAP
johnv wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:56 am you just need to countersink the 2 screws under the cam pulley
Crank pulley.

I would measure cc in head chamber and measure head deck thickness to the oil drilling. Then you'll have an idea on how to achieve required comp ratio.
D-Top, Flat-top, deck head, deck block......

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:18 pm
by snoopy64
Ok, machining all sorted, now +20.

Can anyone recommend a cam close to std and is it worth fitting a duplex timing setup?

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:37 pm
by Polarsilver
Minispares Evo 1 Cam is good value for the money. just a matter of what type Rockers are used & what do you want from your engine.

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:40 pm
by mk1
Another vote for the evo 1 or alternatively Calvers CST229 is a good bet too.

Personally I put duplex's on all my engines, not sure whether it's really necessary though.

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:32 pm
by Peter Laidler
Yes, Duplex...... peace of mind I say

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:42 pm
by Costafortune
Duplex chains are heavier and require more effort to rotate.

A good simplex chain is perfectly fine.

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:53 pm
by mk1
I believe that Swifty uses simplex chains on all his engines nowadays.

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:22 pm
by Richspec
mk1 wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:53 pm I believe that Swifty uses simplex chains on all his engines nowadays.
if i was building a race engine I'd go highest quality single i could find, rotational losses and all that...
But for everyday longevity and not chasing every HP i use duplex as default.

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:01 pm
by snoopy64
Hi,

thanks for all the supplies, I'm not looking to vastly improve anything, just a std set up with std rockers...

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:22 pm
by Costafortune
Simplex JWIS chain. Has an A Series timing chain ever snapped? I've seen them so shagged they've worn through the timing cover, but never broken.

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:56 pm
by snoopy64
Vernier gear worth it?

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:36 pm
by timmy201
I prefer using an offset woodruff key. The vernier adds an extra level of complexity that can come loose

There’s also the type with extra key ways on the crank sprocket to dial it in
https://outlawspeed.com.au/shop/cs8000

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:51 pm
by Costafortune
It's absolutely worth timing the camshaft in properly as well as having a good distributor built with a correct advance curve. You can lose 10 bhp with ease if they aren't right.

That and bumping up the compression ratio to 9.75:1 to run on super unleaded will really give it some sparkle. A good standard 998 Cooper was only a couple seconds slower to 80 mph than a 1071 S.

Re: Actual 998 Chat about rebuilds

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:27 pm
by snoopy64
mk1 wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:40 pm Another vote for the evo 1 or alternatively Calvers CST229 is a good bet too.

Personally I put duplex's on all my engines, not sure whether it's really necessary though.
997 type cam isn’t quite the same as the 998 so will the dizzy need re curving?

Please excuse my ignorance!