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Oof!
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/281805368093?rm ... noapp=true

February 1969 Mk3???

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/111789064101

gs.davies wrote:February 1969 Mk3???

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/111789064101

I don't think so

GraemeC wrote:Oof!
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/281805368093?rm ... noapp=true

Not much red paint underneath!
Was the later grey primer paint waterproof 2K or if not was this why many late Mini's rusted so badly?

Quote:-
"it's worth noting that two-part products are weatherproof and nonporous. You can leave your car in a 2K primer and not worry about the sheetmetal rusting from the inside out."
http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/paint-body ... ive-paint/

mab01uk wrote:

GraemeC wrote:Oof!
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/281805368093?rm ... noapp=true

Not much red paint underneath!
Was the later grey primer paint waterproof 2K or if not was this why many late Mini's rusted so badly?



Quote:-
"it's worth noting that two-part products are weatherproof and nonporous. You can leave your car in a 2K primer and not worry about the sheetmetal rusting from the inside out."
http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/paint-body ... ive-paint/

hmm...my understanding is that general 2k primer is porous to some extent .when cured with a catalyst it becomes a honeycombe of tiny passages for moisture to absorb in to ..often the cause of microblistering months down the road...specific 2 k etch primers with no high build are less porous.
was the original primer in mini production cathodic on late mini's?

American's seem to contradict paint systems ,as are understood in the uk....there term for "laquer" referring to cellulose laquer is confusing as laquer can be 2k ,and is seen as a clear these days

if a car that has been out side in 2k primer for a while ,it will need baking to dry it out before any paint work

Nick

Old English White wrote:

gs.davies wrote:February 1969 Mk3???

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/111789064101

I don't think so

No, neither do I. Silly thing is, the Mk3 is probably tax free now (if that's supposed to be the selling point!)

Nick W wrote:

mab01uk wrote:

GraemeC wrote:Oof!
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/281805368093?rm ... noapp=true

Not much red paint underneath!
Was the later grey primer paint waterproof 2K or if not was this why many late Mini's rusted so badly?



Quote:-
"it's worth noting that two-part products are weatherproof and nonporous. You can leave your car in a 2K primer and not worry about the sheetmetal rusting from the inside out."
http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/paint-body ... ive-paint/

hmm...my understanding is that general 2k primer is porous to some extent .when cured with a catalyst it becomes a honeycombe of tiny passages for moisture to absorb in to ..often the cause of microblistering months down the road...specific 2 k etch primers with no high build are less porous.
was the original primer in mini production cathodic on late mini's?

American's seem to contradict paint systems ,as are understood in the uk....there term for "laquer" referring to cellulose laquer is confusing as laquer can be 2k ,and is seen as a clear these days

if a car that has been out side in 2k primer for a while ,it will need baking to dry it out before any paint work

Nick

Trust me , as nick has referred to two pack primer will soak up vapour like a sponge if you don't use it correctly . So much so , that in fact I never wet flat it any more . I use a dry flatting system . The yanks just love using polyester witch is a ticking time bomb for micro blisters , it's not a case of "IF" but "WHEN" they will pop out of your paint . Could be 6 months or 10 years .... Ken

gs.davies wrote:

Old English White wrote:

gs.davies wrote:February 1969 Mk3???

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/111789064101

I don't think so

No, neither do I. Silly thing is, the Mk3 is probably tax free now (if that's supposed to be the selling point!)

Tax Exempt is up to 1975 now, so Mk3's built in 75 or earlier are very much tax exempt.

GraemeC wrote:Oof!
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/281805368093?rm ... noapp=true

Wonder what his mark up on that is, easy money for dealers these days it would appear

Some buyers will only go to a dealer, like lambs to the slaughter some might say but normally they have the wonga to spend and probably don't know too much about them I suspect. JD Classics for instance will always get 25% over and above any private sale, their customer base can afford it for the right cars which are seen as budget classics to many of them!
It constantly surprises me how easily dealers shift cars for way over the market value. having said that , the one above (Richard Williams) seems to have cornered the market in low mileage mint Rovers as he owns most of 'em! So he's in a good position really! You can't discount the hypnotic dark art of effective salesmanship though either I don't think, and vice versa, for example the dealer with all the Minis in Kent rarely seems to sell any of 'em!?

Original or copy

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DOWNTON-Mini- ... 1c5ad4265e

Kees

I can't see anyone bothering to "forge" a pricelist on a buy it now for a tenner.

M

On the primer question. I ordered a new twin point Rover Cooper back in 1998 which I had Si converted by John Cooper Garages. In the first two weeks the engine mountings failed but that is a different story. Much of the underside (particularly up inside the wings) was grey primer. It was a hard winter in Belgium in 1998 and the car was driven in the snow but always washed off afterwards. I sold it when I moved back to the UK in the summer of 1999 (it was registered R611MUD - still taxed and MOT'd according to the DVLA computer). A year later it was for sale again having had extensive bodywork repairs - the car rusted badly as a result of it only being primer underneath and having been out in the snow. So my conclusion is that 2 pack primer is not waterproof. It was a great pitty that Rover spent all of the money on walnut dashboards and leatherseats rather than a bit of underbody protection. Had they done so the survival rate of late Rover Coopers would surely be much better....

66Traveller wrote:On the primer question. I ordered a new twin point Rover Cooper back in 1998 which I had Si converted by John Cooper Garages. In the first two weeks the engine mountings failed but that is a different story. Much of the underside (particularly up inside the wings) was grey primer. It was a hard winter in Belgium in 1998 and the car was driven in the snow but always washed off afterwards. I sold it when I moved back to the UK in the summer of 1999 (it was registered R611MUD - still taxed and MOT'd according to the DVLA computer). A year later it was for sale again having had extensive bodywork repairs - the car rusted badly as a result of it only being primer underneath and having been out in the snow. So my conclusion is that 2 pack primer is not waterproof. It was a great pitty that Rover spent all of the money on walnut dashboards and leatherseats rather than a bit of underbody protection. Had they done so the survival rate of late Rover Coopers would surely be much better....

I remember another R plater, still near me in Maldon; extensive A Panel rust in the early 2000's. The car looks nice now though and I think it's still with the same owner.

These cars were sold with a six year anti-perforation warranty. Did Rover honour all those rust repairs I wonder?

I remember my Dad bought a Rover Mini 40 in Old English White brand new from the local rover dealers, it was mint!! Got a real good discount on it due to my grandad working in the old BL factory. Really liked the car a lot but that was the same, started to rust in areas ( think rear valance and around hinges and somewhere else ) he took it back and they tried there dammed hardest not to do it saying it was the wrong type of rust etc. Eventually they paid for the work to be done, but was a real pain for my dad.

Nice project Mk1 here, has typical Mk2 & 3 'upgrades' as seen an many a Mini in the '70s... restore back to standard Mk1 spec or 'as it is' keeping the period mods...?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MINI-MK1-1962 ... 235a78e14e

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252101257863? ... EBIDX%3AIT

This Mk 2 looks like a genuine car, and good value...note original front panel...and still hydro...

spoon.450 wrote:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252101257863? ... EBIDX%3AIT

This Mk 2 looks like a genuine car, and good value...note original front panel...and still hydro...

shame they painted the engine that weird colour.

WMU 211G wrote:Nice project Mk1 here, has typical Mk2 & 3 'upgrades' as seen an many a Mini in the '70s... restore back to standard Mk1 spec or 'as it is' keeping the period mods...?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MINI-MK1-1962 ... 235a78e14e

Bare shell restore, put all the old rubbish on ebay, make sure every number matches by paying over the odds for things like the correct fuel sender and wiper motor. Put an 850 engine in it and then drag it around on a trailer.

Bargain? Not seen one for sale before, "twin" Speedwell gauge:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272012210455? ... EBIDX%3AIT