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Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:36 am
by surfblue63
A couple of results from last Saturdays auction at Barons
1071S for £42900, around £40k seams the going rate these days.
http://www.barons-auctions.com/auction_ ... 4&cid=2208
Cheap running and MoT'd Elf, there are still bargains out there if you not too fussy about originality.
http://www.barons-auctions.com/auction_ ... 4&cid=2223
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:42 am
by docka
Not a bad deal that Elf although how do they claim it will still be MOT exempt under the new rules when it has a 1275 engine?
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:32 am
by Andrew1967
As I understand it, if it’s an A series engine it will still qualify, no matter the CC
Problems arise with a complete change of engine type.
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:18 pm
by Pete
Unusually for a U.S car there's not much original car left but this '67 Mk1 S has been restored and now on BAT...
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967- ... 2018-04-25
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:27 am
by Hippo
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:38 pm
by docka
Andrew1967 wrote:As I understand it, if it’s an A series engine it will still qualify, no matter the CC
Problems arise with a complete change of engine type.
That sounds sensible, let’s hope it turns out that way
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:05 pm
by Pete
And.... the Upside down door cards award of the week goes to...... (*drum roll....*) ....
https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... oper-to-s/
I remember that car on 13" wheels.
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:25 pm
by surfblue63
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:32 pm
by Pete
That doesn't sound right at all!
That car's chances of meeting a £25K reserve are slim to outa town!
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:42 pm
by surfblue63
A first glance that red Mk2 998 looks honest, but the dodgy over sills could be hiding something nasty.
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:18 am
by surfblue63
Pete wrote:Brynmor wrote:
I'm presuming it's been to auction before? What sort of figure did it achieve and what's it likely to achieve do we think?
It's ticking lots of boxes for me, would seem an ideal highdays and holidays mode of travel
Its a Cooper S in all but logbook essentially so I suspect it'll go to high teens if not more?!
It did not sell again so I guess it will be up for private treaty sale for a week or so.
Others results from the SWVA sale include (quoted prices are hammer, add 8%+VAT for commission)
Black MK2 Saloon at £5600
https://www.swva.co.uk/classic-car/morr ... mkll-1968/
1275GT with trailer (Works Car?) £15500
https://www.swva.co.uk/classic-car/aust ... 5-gt-1972/
MG Metro MK2 £3000
https://www.swva.co.uk/classic-car/mg-metro-1987/
View the rest of the results here
https://www.swva.co.uk/auction-category ... ount=23419
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:17 am
by Pete
This number plate looks familiar...
http://www.silverstoneauctions.com/morr ... per-s-1275
Anyway it was the description that surprised me :
"It was built on the 4th December 1964 and first registered on the 1st of January, 1965, presumably to take advantage of the change in registration number suffix, and on its Heritage Certificate, the only extras listed are a heater and 4.5” rims.
Although twin petrol tanks were chosen by most 1275S customers (standard from '66)
there was an option to just have one and this car's first owner exercised that option and also preferred that the car was fitted with 'dry' suspension as opposed to the new 'Hydrolastic' system which arrived in 1964. However, the main reason this Cooper is unusual is that it has only been enjoyed by two owners, the last (our vendor) for 43 years!"
Most 1275 Ss had the optional extra tank specified? I doubt it but I've also not heard of ordering dry suspension instead of wet either!
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:04 am
by mk1coopers
From the photos it looks like quite a lot of Mini and not much S (apart from the identity)
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:49 am
by Vintage to Classic
The irony is that some Cooper “S” replicas look more Cooper “S” than that!!!!
It looks so plain. No corner bars, no trim on door frames or sills.
And there is no mention of dry suspension or one tank on certificate.
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:48 am
by Pete
Only an extra fuel tank would appear on the production record. I’ve certainly not heard of a dry suspension option! Missing parts wouldn’t sway me to much but the descriptions imaginative !
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:30 am
by Costafortune
Father of the Mini, Alec Issigonis was firmly against the idea of a performance version of his new baby, despite several long evenings of animated discussion with his good friend, F1 guru, John Cooper in the Royal Oak. However, after JC appealed to BMC Management, Issigonis' concerns were disregarded and the two good friends eventually cooperated in creating what rapidly became and still remains a legendary little motor car.
Is that enough mindless bullshit yet? The first cars used a 997cc twin-carb A-series, changed for a short-stroke 998cc unit from 1964. Front disc brakes were standard and Mini-Coopers stood out thanks to their two-tone paint schemes and special grilles. These nimble little cars soon established their credentials as race and rally winners, and the stage was set for even faster versions. The first of these - the 1,071cc Mini Cooper 'S' of 1963 - took engine development a stage further and provided the basis for the 970 'S' and 1275 'S' of 1964. The ultimate Mini of its day, the 1275 'S', pumped out 76bhp while remaining exceptionally flexible, and was good for a genuine 100mph - an astonishing performance at the time.
That must be enough recycled crap from Wikipedia?
"However, the main reason the V5 is unusual is that it has only been enjoyed by two owners, the last (our vendor) for 43 years!"
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Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:36 am
by Costafortune
It also wins the 'wrong speedo' trophy. Love the freshly minted chassis plate - nothing iffy about that whatsoever.
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:42 pm
by Hippo
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:01 pm
by surfblue63
Must have sold by private treaty as it was not sold when I checked the results
Re: At The Auctions
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:27 pm
by Pete
surfblue63 wrote:
Must have sold by private treaty as it was not sold when I checked the results
About £12K, all S spec, looks a very decent shell. A good buy I'd say!