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Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:23 pm
by tomkidd
To be honest the shaft is good from what I seen, I've had it sat in wd40 all night and havent cleaned it up
Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:25 pm
by tomkidd
But I may take up Graeme on his offer of a passenger side driveshaft?
Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:35 pm
by guru_1071
tom
the snap ring is about 5mm in from the end of the shaft, so you have no chance of getting to it.
all that will happen if you keep on smashing away with a hammer is that it will break and jam up even more - its possible to start breaking the end of the shaft off if you hit it hard enough.
if its rusty its probable that the splines will be knackered anyway, so cutting is the best option.
for the ease of finding a new shaft id sling it.
a mate of mine has had the same problem, he cut the inner part of the pot of and got away with it, but it didnt look half as bad as yours!
Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:41 pm
by Ronnie
After seeing it, as guru said use a cutting disc.
Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:47 pm
by Richspec
My usual trick for removing anything thats proper stuck is lots of heat and wd40 plus a big hammer, the problem I'd have though is getting plenty of heat into something as chunky as that with a small gas bottle and blowtorch.
Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:35 pm
by mk1
the problem I'd have though is getting plenty of heat into something as chunky as that with a small gas bottle and blowtorch.
You could always use a big one

Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:39 pm
by Richspec
But that means actually going out and buying some kit, rather than just 'borrowing' whats available

Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:58 pm
by tomkidd
I'm actually pretty gutted if I have to bin it as I painted it before stripping it! Doh!
Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:53 pm
by sandman
By the looks of things.... that paintjob will need redoing.
Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:08 pm
by mk1
Thinking about it, it's the outer end CV that you can strip & get at the circlip, not the inner.

Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:16 pm
by GraemeC
Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:16 pm
by guru_1071
mk1 wrote:Thinking about it, it's the outer end CV that you can strip & get at the circlip, not the inner.

ahem!
{whispers} mark, the circlip is set back the same at either end!!!{whispers}

Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:19 pm
by GraemeC
Do you think he's ever actually had a Mini in bits before?!

Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:34 pm
by mk1
I don't care what any of you buggers say, I have ended up picking a circlip off the end of a drive shaft to release it before now. Little screwdriver & a pair of pliers is all it took.
Mind you I have never tried to re use a driveshaft that looks like it has spent most of its life at the bottom of a swamp either.
Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:37 pm
by GraemeC
Actually - if you removed the thick circlip and then slid the CV further up the driveshaft that might be possible?
Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:47 pm
by guru_1071
GraemeC wrote:Actually - if you removed the thick circlip and then slid the CV further up the driveshaft that might be possible?
graeme
dont you have to turn the inner cage through 90 degrees and flick the balls out one by one before the inner cage comes out of an outer c.v?
bit hard to do when the shaft is still stuck on it.
i suppose if the cv is well worn the cage might come out like the one on a pot joint does????
Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:01 pm
by Ronnie
At least this subject has created a little bit of discussion.

Heat is very good I use it a lot in my work ( bolts upward of 50mm diameter ), to do it justice you have to get the items cherry red and if possible a quench in water

helps. With your half shaft the shaft and splines will be heat treated too much heat might get the end off and ruin the half shaft. Get a small 125mm cutting disc as guru says carefully grind a slot remove as much metal as you can use the slot created and get a good chisel support it on something solid, if you have an anvil or good work bench and vice, put the chisel in the slot( if necessary to act like a wedge) and hit it with your club hammer

It should split(it will be very brittle) if it does

and if it does'nt

Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:27 pm
by GraemeC
guru_1071 wrote:dont you have to turn the inner cage through 90 degrees and flick the balls out one by one before the inner cage comes out of an outer c.v?
fuctifino - I was jsut rying to help Mark feel better

Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:14 pm
by Smiffy
When your whacking it with the hammer, are you hanging the shaft vertically ? Doing this horizontally loads half the bearings.
edit: didn't read all the posts, that would be the outer CV...........
Re: CV joint wont budge
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:05 am
by austinisuseless
this is why the telephone/internet is no good at sorting these little engineering problems out. Got to go down to the shopfloor and see what actually is the problem...
